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Message: <blockquote data-quote="steeldragons" data-source="post: 6468392" data-attributes="member: 92511">Well, ya know, I try. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f61b.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":p" title="Stick out tongue    :p"  data-smilie="7"data-shortname=":p" />Well, because then I am not conveying the, how [MENTION=12630]Ahrimon[/MENTION] put it, "the best description of mechanical benefits for the sake of mechanical benefits."Because "Not my cup of tea" says nothing other than "I don't like it [something, whatever "it" is]." It is a non-statement. I am commenting on my dislike/dissatisfaction with [what appears to me to be] the copying of video-game/WoW-style "factions" being introfduced into D&D. So, "video gamey-ness" seemed appropriate as I am trying to accurately communicate instead of just make vague statements that can apply to anything and convey nothing. Yes. And you, unsurprisingly, want [and, I presume, think your players should] their cake and get to eat it too." You've shown, across many threads, that you don't like choices that are "forced" on the players, and PCs should be able to get/do/make whatever they want without. All options all the time and no restrictions or limitations. So it is not surprising that you feel instead of being made to think and make a conscious choice with their character, your players should just be able to have both.That's a "style" of play to have. Nice for some. Popular for a few. Lamentably, the only thing known for others.I do no ascribe to such a "style."  <img src="http://www.enworld.org/forum/images/smilies/ponder.png"  class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":hmm:" title="Hmmm    :hmm:" data-shortname=":hmm:" /> Then I fear you will be disappointed. Why should a Bladesinger, as envisioned for 5e, be granted "full caster and martial skill"? That's not going to [or shouldn't] happen. That makes it more powerful than any other class/character in 5e. A bladesinger, if presented at all, will (or I submit "should") be not much more powerful than an Eldritch Knight, basically. Arguably (and not sure I would agree), a Ranger or PalADIN. An armor-wearing, "martial" weapon-wielding "half-caster" (as 5e defines the term). Getting a "full caster/full martial" PC is not something 5e is going to [or should] support, though I don't doubt it would accurately portray the "kewl powerz" elements of a 3x-style prestige class.Which is specifically why, if you'd read my post, I stipulated that the "Prestige-style Feats" would not be available prior to 4th level...maybe, now that I've had some time for mulling, even later. 8th doesn't seem so outrageous for beginning a "prestige-class" style character. But that could be a dial handled table-by-table.</blockquote>

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