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Message: <blockquote data-quote="teitan" data-source="post: 1594858" data-attributes="member: 3457">I would say don't look at the WOTC stuff outside of the early FR material like Silver Marches and Lords of Darkness, instead go to third party publishers like Green Ronin and Sword and Sorcery and as much as I witch about SOv. Press DL prices, even that is a great place to go for the "soul" of the game as opposed to mostly bones. Hasbro (not WOTC) clearly doesn't understand what made D&D popular, and WOTC sure did because early 3e products were awesome, soulful products I remember from 1e and 2e days. Just look at the LGG or FRCS to see my point...S&SS have done an excellent job of creating a flavourful world in the Scarred Lands and the various sourcebooks, including the mechanics. Green Ronin's Races of Renown series is also EXCELLENT and my favourite series of race books. The art in the DL books might not be up to the 1e and 2e DL artwork but the text is awesome and reminds me of why I love DL until I turn the books over and see the price, thank god for Ebay... anyway.Yeah, all the flavour is in 3rd party material and you would do well to look it over because it rocks that much if you find the right companies (usually former early WOTC staffers and some of the White Wolf guys are a good indication of high quality if they are on staff).I also can't recommend the Kalamar material highly enough.Jason</blockquote>