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Message: <blockquote data-quote="amethal" data-source="post: 8877142" data-attributes="member: 22784">I guess that would be the appeal, although playing a victim who sometimes gets to be a bully is not why I play RPGs. The book makes it seem like earning the trust and loyalty of anyone outside the immediate party of adventurers is pretty much impossible. There is a reference to half-orcs sometimes forming an "elite warrior caste" but otherwise it seems like you can't even reach the ludicrously low bar of "you're not like the other half-orcs".And given that "A human's enemies and friends are determined more by expediency and mutual benefit rather than any innate prejudice" but apparently none of the humans like any of the half-orcs, then presumably half-orcs deserve the treatment they get.And it's not just in human settlements - nobody (apart from some half-elves) likes half-orcs, including other half-orcs. It's strongly implied that dwarves would refuse to adventure with half-orcs (and would also be wary about adventuring with elves; given we only have 7 player character races to choose from that seems like a strange decision from a design perspective - even in Tolkien I think it was only the Sindar the dwarves didn't like, due to their shared history; they had no quarrel with the Noldor and didn't think the elven race as a whole was "disloyal and untrustworthy".)And playing the Kurgan is not really an option when you are 1st level. I'd also argue that the Kurgan doesn't have a -2 racial penalty to Charisma (Clancy Brown is awesome).</blockquote>

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