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<blockquote data-quote="Burnside" data-source="post: 8956409" data-attributes="member: 6910340"><p>Is it metagaming? Yes.</p><p></p><p>Is it an "issue"? Depends on the table I guess. Wouldn't be an issue at my table. I have given up on trying to force players not to metagame with this sort of situation.</p><p></p><p>With some of the groups I run, it honestly would not occur to them to feign ignorance that a saving throw was just rolled.</p><p></p><p>On the other hand, some of the tables I run or play at would <em>automatically</em> not metagame because that's the way they like playing.</p><p></p><p>I leave it to players to determine what kind of game they want to play when it comes to stuff like this, and proceed accordingly and try to support their chosen style. I don't think metagaming or NOT metagaming in this situation is objectively better or more fun - very much depends on the group.</p><p></p><p>I am also in favor of leaving all the dice rolls up to the DM and rolled secretly, so that the "issue" of separating player and character knowledge of roll outcomes does not exist. However, every time I have floated doing this among my players and fellow DMs, people are aghast (I also would find it a lot of work as DM tbh). </p><p></p><p>How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Metagame by Burnside.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Burnside, post: 8956409, member: 6910340"] Is it metagaming? Yes. Is it an "issue"? Depends on the table I guess. Wouldn't be an issue at my table. I have given up on trying to force players not to metagame with this sort of situation. With some of the groups I run, it honestly would not occur to them to feign ignorance that a saving throw was just rolled. On the other hand, some of the tables I run or play at would [I]automatically[/I] not metagame because that's the way they like playing. I leave it to players to determine what kind of game they want to play when it comes to stuff like this, and proceed accordingly and try to support their chosen style. I don't think metagaming or NOT metagaming in this situation is objectively better or more fun - very much depends on the group. I am also in favor of leaving all the dice rolls up to the DM and rolled secretly, so that the "issue" of separating player and character knowledge of roll outcomes does not exist. However, every time I have floated doing this among my players and fellow DMs, people are aghast (I also would find it a lot of work as DM tbh). How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Metagame by Burnside. [/QUOTE]
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