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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Particle_Man" data-source="post: 7393815" data-attributes="member: 892">How much bard do you need?  Charisma isn't needed for the inspire courage ability 1x/day at 1st level, and you can put ranks into perform (singing) or (perform (dancing) if you are traditional) while mauling people with natural attacks, and just forget about the spells.  In other combats, you can rage.  You can also wear barding (I recommend light barding so as not to restrict your movement rate).  For a little extra cheese, get Leadership and a cohort that gets Mounted Combat and a high ride skill to protect you from one attack/round when the cohort rides you into combat.  Bonus points if the cohort is a druid that can buff you.I was trying to see if you could get to Shadowdancer (given perform (dance)) but am not sure.  But a bear that strikes out of the shadows like a ninja would be amusing.</blockquote>