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<blockquote data-quote="Greenfield" data-source="post: 7406569" data-attributes="member: 6669384">High five right back at you!There will no doubt be some discussion of magical armor adjusting itself to fit.&nbsp; One of those odd details that may overlook is that, by the book, only magical plate adjusts itself.&nbsp; Non magical plate found in the field has to adjusted to fit its new owner.Chain maille or chain shirt?&nbsp; In the real world chain actually adjusts itself within a wide range.&nbsp; I make chain armor and teach a class in it at the local Renaissance Faire.&nbsp; I have a shirt I let people try on.&nbsp; I'm 5'10&quot; and 200 lbs.&nbsp; The shirt was made doe me when I weighed about 250.&nbsp; It fits 9 year old kids, slender ladies, and men taller and broader than I am.&nbsp; As chain maille pulls longer, it pulls narrower.&nbsp; As it sets on a larger person it expands but gets shorter.By the book, however, that doesn't happen.&nbsp; Of course the book also says that it takes a minute to put on a chain shirt, and it can be done in six seconds.&nbsp; I have fun with that when D&amp;D players come to my classes and try the thing on. Still, I'm a rules guy.&nbsp; I play the book rules whether they &quot;make sense&quot; or not.&nbsp; So, while it might be argued that a bear on his hind legs is bipedal enough to wear a chain shirt made for an ogre or troll (i.e. large size), I'm still thinking more in terms of barding for a horse.&nbsp; If/when he moves on all fours that shirt is going to sag nearly to the ground and ride up his back, leaving his lower back exposed.&nbsp; He'll need to have it belted in snugly, at a minimum. Custom armor for a large, non-humanoid costs four times as much and weighs twice as much.&nbsp; He can deal with that.Now, neither the bear, the barbarian nor the bard are proficient in heavier armors, so it's either light armor or mithral made medium armor for him.As for weapons:&nbsp; It's tempting to go big-bang style and get him a large greataxe, and let him go to town.&nbsp; I think that's something like 2 D8 +12 before adding any magic or power attack.&nbsp; Power attack will probably have to wait until 9th level, but he won't have the BAB to make it worth while before that in any case.A halberd might be good.&nbsp; Give him 15 foot reach with a large one and still have good damage.&nbsp; Same as the great axe, in fact.&nbsp; Add some spikes to his armor and make his grapple a really scary thing.Anyway, those are my disjointed thoughts.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Greenfield, post: 7406569, member: 6669384"] High five right back at you! There will no doubt be some discussion of magical armor adjusting itself to fit. One of those odd details that may overlook is that, by the book, only magical plate adjusts itself. Non magical plate found in the field has to adjusted to fit its new owner. Chain maille or chain shirt? In the real world chain actually adjusts itself within a wide range. I make chain armor and teach a class in it at the local Renaissance Faire. I have a shirt I let people try on. I'm 5'10" and 200 lbs. The shirt was made doe me when I weighed about 250. It fits 9 year old kids, slender ladies, and men taller and broader than I am. As chain maille pulls longer, it pulls narrower. As it sets on a larger person it expands but gets shorter. By the book, however, that doesn't happen. Of course the book also says that it takes a minute to put on a chain shirt, and it can be done in six seconds. I have fun with that when D&D players come to my classes and try the thing on. Still, I'm a rules guy. I play the book rules whether they "make sense" or not. So, while it might be argued that a bear on his hind legs is bipedal enough to wear a chain shirt made for an ogre or troll (i.e. large size), I'm still thinking more in terms of barding for a horse. If/when he moves on all fours that shirt is going to sag nearly to the ground and ride up his back, leaving his lower back exposed. He'll need to have it belted in snugly, at a minimum. Custom armor for a large, non-humanoid costs four times as much and weighs twice as much. He can deal with that. Now, neither the bear, the barbarian nor the bard are proficient in heavier armors, so it's either light armor or mithral made medium armor for him. As for weapons: It's tempting to go big-bang style and get him a large greataxe, and let him go to town. I think that's something like 2 D8 +12 before adding any magic or power attack. Power attack will probably have to wait until 9th level, but he won't have the BAB to make it worth while before that in any case. A halberd might be good. Give him 15 foot reach with a large one and still have good damage. Same as the great axe, in fact. Add some spikes to his armor and make his grapple a really scary thing. Anyway, those are my disjointed thoughts. [/QUOTE]

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