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Message: <blockquote data-quote="pawsplay" data-source="post: 3142510" data-attributes="member: 15538">Why does it have to be a major sacrifice? The class benefits are very specialized, and the hit die reduction is already significant.Thank you for condescending.I'm just working under the knowledge that1) many clerics of Pelor will want access to the Good domain2) many clerics of Pelor will want access to the Strength domain3) many clerics of pelor will not want to choose Extra Turning as a feat4) some clerics of pelor will not have a lot of skill ranks to throw aroundObviously, it's not a problem for aspiring radiant servants. But there are a great many clerics of Pelor who are not aspirating to be radiant servants, or if they were thinking about, decided to go with something else. If you want to be an 8th level cleric, zero sacrifice. If you do not, that's a sacrifice. If you do not take exactly eight levels, there is a sacrifice.Your analogy sucks. This more like, would you like the chicken sandwich and coke, or would you like the cheeseburger and the coke with a free upsize? If you want a chicken sandwich and you don't want a cheeseburger, you aren't going to choose the second option.Or an even better analogy, "The Duelist is totally overpowered. Why would any Dex-based rapier wielding melee character who doesn't want to wear armor NOT take this class?"IF you already want the Sun and Healing domains, wish to worship Pelor, find Extra Turning as useful as any other feat you would choose, and wish to take exactly eight levels of cleric, then it's true, you lose:- a few ranks in Heal, a suboptimal skill- one hit point per level you take as a radiant servant- one point of Reflex saveand you gain- a few powered up cure spells a day- some nice turning options- that light spell thing- martial weapon proficiency- two points of Fortitude and Will saveIs that enough to make all clerics want to be a radiant servant? No. Is it enough to tempt even all clerics of Pelor? No. Is a radiant servant of pelor more powerful than a cleric of Pelor who chooses Good and Strength as domains? Not necessarily. In some respects, definitely yes. In others, definitely no.What are your other options besides being a radiant servant?You could continue as a cleric, gaining more hit points, and choosing different domains.You could take a different prestige class than Radiant Servant.</blockquote>

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