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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Stone Dog" data-source="post: 2787885" data-attributes="member: 16705">Okay, since I am a weak impulsive minded spendthrift I went out and bought the thing.  I'll do a rough breakdown of the Monk vs Battle Dancer here.Skills, no real difference.As mentioned the BD's BAB is better and only Ref is good.  The monk takes out mooks like nobody's business (flurry) where the BD does better against single opponents or small groups (Dance abilities).AC and Unarmed Damage are the same, but as mentioned the big bonus is based on Cha for the BD.Monks get bonus feats.Dancers don't get evasion.The monk is faster, but the BD can work around opponents better and can walk on water.The BD gets the equivilant of Ki strikes later than the monk, but has more options as to what form it takes.  Oh, and the BD's Ki (Dancer's Strike) fades after a while and needs refreshing.The high level BD can fly.  All the time.I'm guessing that the Dance of the Vexing Snake allows the BD to avoid AoO pretty effectively, but it doesn't really seem clear.It seems a pretty even trade off at the surface.  I look forward to having both of them in play at the same time to see how they really match up.Might be fun to run a small dungeon with 2 20th level characters ala X-Crawl and see who "wins."</blockquote>