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<blockquote data-quote="Neonchameleon" data-source="post: 5926416" data-attributes="member: 87792">Point on all counts.&nbsp; At the moment the fighter is just bland and focussed. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile&nbsp; &nbsp; :)"&nbsp; data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />&nbsp;&nbsp;Except he mathematically will have utility spells left over.&nbsp; And a buff-cleric (like the warpriest) doesn't use his spelsl for direct attackign so &quot;spells combat utility will be far diminished&quot; simply isn't true.&nbsp;&nbsp;Cure Light Wounds.&nbsp;&nbsp;And Cleave comes from the theme, not from being a fighter - therefore it is completely irrelevant.&nbsp;&nbsp;1: The fighter needs to protect himself from mind control.2: He's designed as the group perception king.&nbsp;&nbsp;Equalise strength and put up Crusader's Strike brings him close enough.&nbsp;&nbsp;For short periods of at least an hour.&nbsp;&nbsp;Or your random encounters don't start with the word &quot;CHARGE!!!&quot;&nbsp;&nbsp;Bwuh?&nbsp; If the fighter has higher physical stats it's by dump-statting the mental ones.&nbsp; And mental ones are really useful out of comabt.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Neonchameleon, post: 5926416, member: 87792"] Point on all counts. At the moment the fighter is just bland and focussed. :) Except he mathematically will have utility spells left over. And a buff-cleric (like the warpriest) doesn't use his spelsl for direct attackign so "spells combat utility will be far diminished" simply isn't true. Cure Light Wounds. And Cleave comes from the theme, not from being a fighter - therefore it is completely irrelevant. 1: The fighter needs to protect himself from mind control. 2: He's designed as the group perception king. Equalise strength and put up Crusader's Strike brings him close enough. For short periods of at least an hour. Or your random encounters don't start with the word "CHARGE!!!" Bwuh? If the fighter has higher physical stats it's by dump-statting the mental ones. And mental ones are really useful out of comabt. [/QUOTE]

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