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<blockquote data-quote="N'raac" data-source="post: 6238228" data-attributes="member: 6681948">Funny how a lot of &quot;overpowered&quot; spells become a lot less overpowered when we actually read and apply the rules.So, we have a different efreet, with WIS and CHA of 5.&nbsp; I'd say the original Polymorph spell applies and it gets the physical stats of an Efreet.&nbsp; Polymorph indicates the target gains the physical stats of the creature it becomes.&nbsp; [MENTION=6687585]Ramaster[/MENTION], am I missing an SRD link here?Nothing says it has to obey us.&nbsp; It functions like polymorph, in general, so no extraordinary special qualities possessed by the new form or any supernatural or spell-like abilities. I'd allow that Any Object allows for outsiders, where Polymorph itself would not (Polymorph itself can't transform something into an Outsider).I agree that &quot;Kingdom&quot; is not shared.&nbsp; One example in the spell description is &quot;Sheep to wool coat&quot;, which lasts 2 days ( a 6 score).&nbsp; That can't include Kingdom, which is worth 5.&nbsp; Looks like size, related and same or lower INT.&nbsp; Here, we'd have size and related, so a total of 4 as Ahnehnois suggests, and a 3 hour duration.Regardless of the other nitpicks, though, it seems clear the spell cannot be used as a substitute for raising the dead - you get A creature, not THE SAME creature.&nbsp; Is that enough Dispelled BS?</blockquote>

[QUOTE="N'raac, post: 6238228, member: 6681948"] Funny how a lot of "overpowered" spells become a lot less overpowered when we actually read and apply the rules. So, we have a different efreet, with WIS and CHA of 5. I'd say the original Polymorph spell applies and it gets the physical stats of an Efreet. Polymorph indicates the target gains the physical stats of the creature it becomes. [MENTION=6687585]Ramaster[/MENTION], am I missing an SRD link here? Nothing says it has to obey us. It functions like polymorph, in general, so no extraordinary special qualities possessed by the new form or any supernatural or spell-like abilities. I'd allow that Any Object allows for outsiders, where Polymorph itself would not (Polymorph itself can't transform something into an Outsider). I agree that "Kingdom" is not shared. One example in the spell description is "Sheep to wool coat", which lasts 2 days ( a 6 score). That can't include Kingdom, which is worth 5. Looks like size, related and same or lower INT. Here, we'd have size and related, so a total of 4 as Ahnehnois suggests, and a 3 hour duration. Regardless of the other nitpicks, though, it seems clear the spell cannot be used as a substitute for raising the dead - you get A creature, not THE SAME creature. Is that enough Dispelled BS? [/QUOTE]

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