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<blockquote data-quote="N'raac" data-source="post: 6238602" data-attributes="member: 6681948"><p>"Any Object" indicates the target gains the new forms INT, CHA and WIS (not sure how I saw INT yesterday, but missed CHA and WIS right after).</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I'm not sure where the "physical stat" issue came from, as this is consistent across the polymorph spells. So we should get an Efreet with standard Efreet stats across the board, physical and mental, using Polymorph Any Object.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>The examples in Polymorph Any Object are pretty clear indicators that "dead thing" is not in the same category as "living thing". "Lizard to Manticore" is rated a 5, which can only be "same kingdom" and nothing else. "Sheep to wool coat" is rated 6, which cannot include "same Kingdom". It's got lower INT, Similar, and (I assume) Same Size.</p><p></p><p>I could reasonably rule that it cannot Polymorph something into an Outsider, as that type is not included in the Polymorph spell, nor does the Polymorph Any Object spell include any examples where the target or the new form is of a prohibited type. It is clearly restricted from adding magical properties, affecting magic items or creating items of value or having special properties. The Polymmorph restrictions on special abilities, and on not affecting gaseous or incorporeal, creatures also appear to remain in effect, so maybe the types are also restricted in accordance with the Polymorph spell. However, some restrictions are clearly lifted (it must be possible for the new form to have more HD than the old form, as inanimate objects generally lack HD).</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>If a sheep and a wool coat are not in the same kingom, I don't believe the steak and the cow are either.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I think we have consensus you cannot create or duplicate a specific creature with Polymorph Other.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I think this would work much like INT, CHA and WIS. If the target had an existing mind, that mind transfers over. If not, you get a typical example of the creature in this regard, same as its WIS and CHA.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Given some comments I've seen when the actual words of the spell description are read and reasonably applied, I would not bet against being perceived as vindictive or adversarial. Hopefully, your players are more reasonable than that.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="N'raac, post: 6238602, member: 6681948"] "Any Object" indicates the target gains the new forms INT, CHA and WIS (not sure how I saw INT yesterday, but missed CHA and WIS right after). I'm not sure where the "physical stat" issue came from, as this is consistent across the polymorph spells. So we should get an Efreet with standard Efreet stats across the board, physical and mental, using Polymorph Any Object. The examples in Polymorph Any Object are pretty clear indicators that "dead thing" is not in the same category as "living thing". "Lizard to Manticore" is rated a 5, which can only be "same kingdom" and nothing else. "Sheep to wool coat" is rated 6, which cannot include "same Kingdom". It's got lower INT, Similar, and (I assume) Same Size. I could reasonably rule that it cannot Polymorph something into an Outsider, as that type is not included in the Polymorph spell, nor does the Polymorph Any Object spell include any examples where the target or the new form is of a prohibited type. It is clearly restricted from adding magical properties, affecting magic items or creating items of value or having special properties. The Polymmorph restrictions on special abilities, and on not affecting gaseous or incorporeal, creatures also appear to remain in effect, so maybe the types are also restricted in accordance with the Polymorph spell. However, some restrictions are clearly lifted (it must be possible for the new form to have more HD than the old form, as inanimate objects generally lack HD). If a sheep and a wool coat are not in the same kingom, I don't believe the steak and the cow are either. I think we have consensus you cannot create or duplicate a specific creature with Polymorph Other. I think this would work much like INT, CHA and WIS. If the target had an existing mind, that mind transfers over. If not, you get a typical example of the creature in this regard, same as its WIS and CHA. Given some comments I've seen when the actual words of the spell description are read and reasonably applied, I would not bet against being perceived as vindictive or adversarial. Hopefully, your players are more reasonable than that. [/QUOTE]
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