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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Dannager" data-source="post: 5593479" data-attributes="member: 73683">I am a DM, and that is not my view.No. I own those books, and I own the original PHB, MM, DMG, but I have used the Compendium and DM's screen for these things from the moment they were available. The only parts of the DMG I really used, even early on, are some of the parts that are still valid today: treasure parcels (yes, an alternate system exists but isn't yet fully-supported) and advice.My core books have been gathering dust since I subscribed to DDI.Tell them to buy an HoF_ book.They probably won't, but if they do, that HoF_ book you told them to buy will get them through just fine.If they want to build a character with a lot of powers to pick from, have them use DDI. If they want to build a character with easy choices to make, have them just use that HoF_ book.In what way? It's a fine book.No, it's the way it is so that it works with a bunch of different types of characters. There's only one "kind" of 4e: 4e. Heroes of Shadow is a perfect example that proves that Essentials is simply a set of options within 4e.This has nothing to do with the discussion we're having and everything to do with a personal opinion on how they ought to have handled a mechanic.No one has said Essentials is not about updates. But that's not unique to Essentials. The game was updated before Essentials (and to no lesser degree) and the game will continue to be updated after Essentials. This is the nature of a living game.What is happening is that people are seeing a bunch of new books that look different and instead of stepping back and examining things with a critical eye, they're suddenly noticing that the game has had updates. If new books are coming out that reflect these updates, it must be a new edition! Or so their thought process goes.I don't see many. This is just a lot of people whining about how much they believe the game to have changed, when in reality they could sit down and start playing with a mix of every type of character possible and the game would play pretty much exactly the same, even from the DM's perspective.And for crying out loud, people, use DDI.</blockquote>

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