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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Argyle King" data-source="post: 5593919" data-attributes="member: 58416">I think I can buy into that idea.  I've started to realize that -as someone who has neither DDi nor owns any Essential books of my own- I am unsure if I still know how to play 4E.  I do play with a group every weekend, and I do fine there where we're all on the same page when it comes to the rules.  However, I don't believe I would be able to sit down at a table with a group using the new rules and have a good idea of how things were supposed to work.  Even on here, when I participate in conversations about 4E, I find more and more that I no longer know the game.As for being simple or being an 'easy' option, I disagree.  I felt that 4E was already pretty simple and easy; I'm not convinced that the layout of Essentials conveys game information better - even if I were to accept that the classes are simpler.  I believe I would have had a harder time getting into 4th Edition with Essentials* than I did with the first three books.  Different people learn differently; I accept that, but I'm of the impression that I'm not the only person who feels the Essentials layout leaves a little to be desired.  Now days, when I tell people I can make a character by hand, they look at me as though I must have some kind of super power.*While I own none of the Essential products, I do have access to them via friends.</blockquote>