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<blockquote data-quote="Saracenus" data-source="post: 5593963" data-attributes="member: 47839"><p>Actually, the core rules of the game that your powers, feats and race/class abilities modify haven't changed all that much. If you want a concise set of rules I highly recommend the rules compendium (RC). While the RC has the Essentials brand it really is useful for any 4e player and DM.</p><p></p><p>Where playing only from the printed books from 4e first wave gets really wonky is the errata to the powers, feats and race/class abilities of PH1 and PH2 (plus all the splat books).</p><p></p><p>If you are going to only use printed material then the free errata updates can bring your PCs up to date (if that is what you want, plenty of folks have ignored errata through out all editions).</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I will say this is really a point of entry issue. When I finally converted over to 4e from 3.5 I had a really hard time groking the way things were laid out (I remember asking WTF [W] meant until I got half way through the PHB). I adjusted and then it was fine.</p><p></p><p>Essentials is much easier to grok for a new player or one coming from an earlier edition. It marches straight through the process of making a character. It took me a while to get used to the info being rearranged again.</p><p></p><p>I will tell you this, I would rather hand create an essentials PC than try and make a PH1-3 PC with full access to online and splat book material. I get paralyzed by all the choices. I would only build those PCs using the CB.</p><p></p><p>NOTE: If you can create a PC by hand with full options available for first wave 4e, then yes you have a superpower (Psionic).</p><p></p><p>My two coppers,</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Saracenus, post: 5593963, member: 47839"] Actually, the core rules of the game that your powers, feats and race/class abilities modify haven't changed all that much. If you want a concise set of rules I highly recommend the rules compendium (RC). While the RC has the Essentials brand it really is useful for any 4e player and DM. Where playing only from the printed books from 4e first wave gets really wonky is the errata to the powers, feats and race/class abilities of PH1 and PH2 (plus all the splat books). If you are going to only use printed material then the free errata updates can bring your PCs up to date (if that is what you want, plenty of folks have ignored errata through out all editions). I will say this is really a point of entry issue. When I finally converted over to 4e from 3.5 I had a really hard time groking the way things were laid out (I remember asking WTF [W] meant until I got half way through the PHB). I adjusted and then it was fine. Essentials is much easier to grok for a new player or one coming from an earlier edition. It marches straight through the process of making a character. It took me a while to get used to the info being rearranged again. I will tell you this, I would rather hand create an essentials PC than try and make a PH1-3 PC with full access to online and splat book material. I get paralyzed by all the choices. I would only build those PCs using the CB. NOTE: If you can create a PC by hand with full options available for first wave 4e, then yes you have a superpower (Psionic). My two coppers, [/QUOTE]
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