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<blockquote data-quote="Argyle King" data-source="post: 5594071" data-attributes="member: 58416">I would never argue that Essentials and 3.5 were intended for the same thing.&nbsp; Neither would I argue that 3.5 was not a new edition.However, to some extent, I can see the comparison between the new direction of Essentials and 3.5.&nbsp; I just think the change is less drastic and less noticeable with Essentials because it's been a gradual change from PHB1 to PHB 2 to PHB 3 to Essentials rather than a sudden shift, and the old stuff has been gradually been given errata to keep things working.&nbsp; If there were someone who had only the first 3 books and then picked up one of the Essentials books without knowing about anything in between, I imagine the change would be more noticeable.Admittedly, I am far less experienced with Essentials than I ever was with 3.0 or 3.5, but I think there arise some similar problems.&nbsp; One of those similar problems being that -while mostly compatible- there are a few edge cases in which the combination of elements works a little differently than I imagine (I can only assume) they were originally meant to.&nbsp; Examples which come to mind include some of the leader powers which grant basic attacks.&nbsp; A Bard using Increase The Tempo to grant his Essentials buddy 4 basic attacks as a free action tends to be a little stronger than it otherwise would be.&nbsp; I wouldn't say it's broken; just that it changes the power level of the ability IMO.As someone who loves to multiclass (in many cases Paragon MCing,) there are a few Essentials classes which I'm unsure how to MC with.&nbsp; I'm of the understanding there is playtesting going on in regards to this right now.&nbsp; I'm somewhat anxious to see the end result.&nbsp; I wouldn't say any of those are huge issues.&nbsp; Most can probably be figured out with a little thought and some DM fiat.&nbsp; However, those are things I notice.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Argyle King, post: 5594071, member: 58416"] I would never argue that Essentials and 3.5 were intended for the same thing. Neither would I argue that 3.5 was not a new edition. However, to some extent, I can see the comparison between the new direction of Essentials and 3.5. I just think the change is less drastic and less noticeable with Essentials because it's been a gradual change from PHB1 to PHB 2 to PHB 3 to Essentials rather than a sudden shift, and the old stuff has been gradually been given errata to keep things working. If there were someone who had only the first 3 books and then picked up one of the Essentials books without knowing about anything in between, I imagine the change would be more noticeable. Admittedly, I am far less experienced with Essentials than I ever was with 3.0 or 3.5, but I think there arise some similar problems. One of those similar problems being that -while mostly compatible- there are a few edge cases in which the combination of elements works a little differently than I imagine (I can only assume) they were originally meant to. Examples which come to mind include some of the leader powers which grant basic attacks. A Bard using Increase The Tempo to grant his Essentials buddy 4 basic attacks as a free action tends to be a little stronger than it otherwise would be. I wouldn't say it's broken; just that it changes the power level of the ability IMO. As someone who loves to multiclass (in many cases Paragon MCing,) there are a few Essentials classes which I'm unsure how to MC with. I'm of the understanding there is playtesting going on in regards to this right now. I'm somewhat anxious to see the end result. I wouldn't say any of those are huge issues. Most can probably be figured out with a little thought and some DM fiat. However, those are things I notice. [/QUOTE]

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