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<blockquote data-quote="DracoSuave" data-source="post: 5594333" data-attributes="member: 71571"><p>Oh no, I went and grabbed the 3.5 book and looked and saw that it wasn't some alternate build, some alternate class in everything but name only, but was actually attempting to completely rewrite the classes. Essentials just presents new subclasses that might as well be new classes, but can use some of the resources of other classes.</p><p></p><p>The 3.5 Ranger was a complete remake of the ranger, and was meant ENTIRELY to replace the ranger from then on. 3.0 and 3.5 rangers weren't meant to co-exist.</p><p></p><p>Essentials' ranger subclasses aren't meant to replace the PHB ranger. They're meant to be a different way to ranger, but can co-exist with the old ranger. Same with the warpriest, the mage, the slayer, the cavalier...</p><p></p><p>That's why they can reprint the old classes. You could make the argument that Class Compendium is 4.5. But not Essentials itself. </p><p></p><p>Essentials isn't meant to -replace- your PHB. It's meant as a new entry point in the game, and a new design philosophy for future character classes. It's not meant to be an eraser that rubs out old versions of the class.</p><p></p><p>You can't make the argument that the slayer and knight are designed to replace the weaponmaster nor fix problems with the weaponmaster, which is what 3.5 was intended to do. Again, Class Compendium is doing that.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="DracoSuave, post: 5594333, member: 71571"] Oh no, I went and grabbed the 3.5 book and looked and saw that it wasn't some alternate build, some alternate class in everything but name only, but was actually attempting to completely rewrite the classes. Essentials just presents new subclasses that might as well be new classes, but can use some of the resources of other classes. The 3.5 Ranger was a complete remake of the ranger, and was meant ENTIRELY to replace the ranger from then on. 3.0 and 3.5 rangers weren't meant to co-exist. Essentials' ranger subclasses aren't meant to replace the PHB ranger. They're meant to be a different way to ranger, but can co-exist with the old ranger. Same with the warpriest, the mage, the slayer, the cavalier... That's why they can reprint the old classes. You could make the argument that Class Compendium is 4.5. But not Essentials itself. Essentials isn't meant to -replace- your PHB. It's meant as a new entry point in the game, and a new design philosophy for future character classes. It's not meant to be an eraser that rubs out old versions of the class. You can't make the argument that the slayer and knight are designed to replace the weaponmaster nor fix problems with the weaponmaster, which is what 3.5 was intended to do. Again, Class Compendium is doing that. [/QUOTE]
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