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Message: <blockquote data-quote="the Jester" data-source="post: 5595633" data-attributes="member: 1210">So wait, is the assumption "Any changes to the format, design or execution of rules used in the PH is a new edition!"? Because that seems like an awfully broad way to describe edition changes.By that thinking:-The release of 1e DMG was a new edition (it significantly altered a lot of stuff from the PH, including instituting "die at -10" and lots of spell changes).-The release of 1e Unearthed Arcana was a new edition (new ways to generate ability scores, new types of classes that RAISED YOUR STATS!!, revising the paladin to a cavalier subclass).-The release of 1e Oriental Adventures was another one (honor).-The Survival Guides were another (still officially 1e though!) (nonweapon proficiencies come to the west).-Then the 2e PH was ACTUALLY 6e!-Then the Complete Guides to... were 7e.-Then the Skills & Powers book was 8e...-Then Spells & Magic came along and gave us 9e...-Then the 3e PH came out, which must have actually been 10e...-Then 3e Oriental Adventures, which was 11e...-Then the 3.5 PH, which (apparently) was 12e...-Then the "Complete X" books changed a bunch of stuff up, so that must have been 13e...-Tome of Magic: 14e?-The Book of Nine Swords: 15e?-Then the 4e PH, which is 16e...-Followed by the 4e PH3 (PH2 stuck to the formulae pretty closely) was 17e...-...the Red Box for 4e, which is 18e...-Heroes of the XXX XXX must then be 19e.</blockquote>