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<blockquote data-quote="mneme" data-source="post: 5596376" data-attributes="member: 59248"><p>Wow, what a jerk. Hmm. Maybe your should read your posts before posting them?</p><p></p><p>But since you seem to have missed the point, your claim regarding, say, the Knight and the Weaponmaster is that options one can take, the other cannot -- and that even options that are good for one build are pointless for the other (for instance, feats that require you to have a target marked are going to be pointless to the Knight). Clearly, you have claimed, this indicates an edition shift, with a new class that is functionally incompatable with the old version of the class.</p><p></p><p>Except, of course, that PH1 had classes that were functionally incompatible with themselves. The Strength Cleric and the Wisdom Cleric share a small set of powers that are useful to both versions of the class, and a very large set of options that were only useful to one type of cleric. It can hardly be honestly stated that the idea of having multiple versions of a class, each bearing different options, is a novel idea of Essentials; the emphasis may be different, but it's hardly a deep philisohpical change, nor an example of "incompatability."</p><p></p><p>For that matter, the first class having fewer options than other classes also appears in PH1. I'll leave its identity as an exercise for the reader, though.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="mneme, post: 5596376, member: 59248"] Wow, what a jerk. Hmm. Maybe your should read your posts before posting them? But since you seem to have missed the point, your claim regarding, say, the Knight and the Weaponmaster is that options one can take, the other cannot -- and that even options that are good for one build are pointless for the other (for instance, feats that require you to have a target marked are going to be pointless to the Knight). Clearly, you have claimed, this indicates an edition shift, with a new class that is functionally incompatable with the old version of the class. Except, of course, that PH1 had classes that were functionally incompatible with themselves. The Strength Cleric and the Wisdom Cleric share a small set of powers that are useful to both versions of the class, and a very large set of options that were only useful to one type of cleric. It can hardly be honestly stated that the idea of having multiple versions of a class, each bearing different options, is a novel idea of Essentials; the emphasis may be different, but it's hardly a deep philisohpical change, nor an example of "incompatability." For that matter, the first class having fewer options than other classes also appears in PH1. I'll leave its identity as an exercise for the reader, though. [/QUOTE]
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