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<blockquote data-quote="Neonchameleon" data-source="post: 5598154" data-attributes="member: 87792"><p>Indeed. It adds new terms such as subclass. Like everything else.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>No. But it happened in Martial Power. And PHB 3. And most other splatbooks. That's because 3.5 was a rewrite and HOFK/L are extensions in the same way additional PHBs are.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>By "All the essentials stuff" you mean two books? HOFL and HOFK? (Oh, and get Monster Vault - it's awesome).</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>You mean the way Arcane Power uses the PHB2? Yup, been there for a long time. Between HOFK and HOFL there are ten classes (Warpriest, Slayer, Knight, Thief, Mage in HOFL and Cavalier, Scout, Hunter, Sentinel, Hexblade in HOFL). Of these ten classes, <em>eight</em> are new (the Mage is a tweaked Wizard and if they gave Mages Ritual Caster I'd prefer the mage in every way - and the Warpriest is a wis-melee cleric (when previously it wasn't possible) with a few tweaks and bonusses to make up for the limited power selection).</p><p></p><p>Eight new classes. And because Heroes of Shadow provides support for <em>one</em> of the new classes that didn't previously exist it somehow isn't compatable with the old material?</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>A conclusion I find absolutely <em>stunning</em> when <strong>no one who has tried mixing essentials and pre-essentials has reported a problem.</strong> As this thread has shown, the only problems being reported are by those who are not trying to mix the two.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Neonchameleon, post: 5598154, member: 87792"] Indeed. It adds new terms such as subclass. Like everything else. No. But it happened in Martial Power. And PHB 3. And most other splatbooks. That's because 3.5 was a rewrite and HOFK/L are extensions in the same way additional PHBs are. By "All the essentials stuff" you mean two books? HOFL and HOFK? (Oh, and get Monster Vault - it's awesome). You mean the way Arcane Power uses the PHB2? Yup, been there for a long time. Between HOFK and HOFL there are ten classes (Warpriest, Slayer, Knight, Thief, Mage in HOFL and Cavalier, Scout, Hunter, Sentinel, Hexblade in HOFL). Of these ten classes, [I]eight[/I] are new (the Mage is a tweaked Wizard and if they gave Mages Ritual Caster I'd prefer the mage in every way - and the Warpriest is a wis-melee cleric (when previously it wasn't possible) with a few tweaks and bonusses to make up for the limited power selection). Eight new classes. And because Heroes of Shadow provides support for [I]one[/I] of the new classes that didn't previously exist it somehow isn't compatable with the old material? A conclusion I find absolutely [I]stunning[/I] when [B]no one who has tried mixing essentials and pre-essentials has reported a problem.[/B] As this thread has shown, the only problems being reported are by those who are not trying to mix the two. [/QUOTE]
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