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<blockquote data-quote="Neonchameleon" data-source="post: 5598584" data-attributes="member: 87792">In short by doing something that had absolutely no in game effect on any PHB-based fighters they almost miraculously allowed classes that fill what people desire who would otherwise be intimidated by 4e or lost in analysis paralysis.&nbsp; The change made was not substantive to any pre-existing characters; they barely even changed the name.&nbsp; The outcome was that entire new swathes of people had classes to suit them.&nbsp; Damn right this gets a fairytale ending - you don't normally have solutions that neat and that please just about everyone who tries them other than those completely hung up on a detail that makes absolutely no difference in actual play.&nbsp; What's in a name?&nbsp; You even still get to be a fighter.&nbsp; But so do people who think that fighters are something other than you think they are.&nbsp; Is your objection really that other people get toys almost as cool as yours? Complete nonsense.&nbsp; Classic classes are still being supported - see Heroes of Shadow.&nbsp; New powers for warlocks, for wizards, for Paladins, and for Clerics - all PHB 1 classes.&nbsp; Essentials is just a part of 4e.Google Translate gives that as &quot;I control&quot;.&nbsp; Does anyone speak idiomatic internet German?&nbsp; Because the sound of Ich trolle is suspiciously close.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Neonchameleon, post: 5598584, member: 87792"] In short by doing something that had [I]absolutely no in game effect on any PHB-based fighters[/I] they almost miraculously allowed classes that fill what people desire who would otherwise be intimidated by 4e or lost in analysis paralysis. The change made was not substantive to any pre-existing characters; they barely even changed the name. The outcome was that entire new swathes of people had classes to suit them. Damn right this gets a fairytale ending - you don't normally have solutions that neat and that please just about everyone who tries them other than those completely hung up on a detail that makes absolutely no difference in actual play. What's in a name? You even still get to be a fighter. But so do people who think that fighters are something other than you think they are. Is your objection [I]really[/I] that other people get toys almost as cool as yours? Complete nonsense. Classic classes are still being supported - see Heroes of Shadow. New powers for warlocks, for wizards, for Paladins, and for Clerics - all PHB 1 classes. Essentials is just a part of 4e. Google Translate gives that as "I control". Does anyone speak idiomatic internet German? Because the sound of Ich trolle is suspiciously close. [/QUOTE]

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