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<blockquote data-quote="F4NBOY" data-source="post: 3716370" data-attributes="member: 54553"><p>I wonder why this sentence:</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Usually comes followed by this one:</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I stand for what I've said. Video games and RPG are the same thing. They are games. We buy them and play them to have fun. Companies produce them and sell them for profit. And trust me, the guys who created D&D love the game as much as the guys that produced their videogame consoles.</p><p></p><p>The way people play those games, what they feel about them, what those games meant to them, you just can't quantify that and use it to prove anything, it depends and varies from person to person. I know D&D players that love when a new edition comes out and video game players that are pissed off when they feel they their consoles are old. So what? What does that prove? Nothing. And the opposite of that proves nothing too. </p><p></p><p>I was talking about emotions here, not business. You just missed the point.</p><p></p><p>I posted that because I know some people becomes sad when they feel all those books they bought are useless. They feel robbed and fooled. I just don't think it's fair to put the guilty of that feelings on the companies. People just fool themselves(ok sometime companies fool people...) when they give too much importance and relevance to games. It's a game. </p><p></p><p>Are they entitled to give as much importance to it as they want to? Sure, but just don't blame someone else when you feel bad about that. Look yourself in the mirror and ask "why did I care so much?"</p><p></p><p>And IMO, RPG gamers have even less reasons to complain about new version of their products, because RPG games don't become obselete. People can still play them and have the same kind of fun they had when they were the main edition. And RPG is an even cheaper hobby than videogames!</p><p></p><p>I know there are many passionate answers for what i've just said, but people that play videogame also have their passions. They are not mindless playing drones as we are the romantic/artists filled with feelings and strong emotions. Games are just games.The issue is that gamers ARE gamers.</p><p></p><p>I knew a guy that slept with his Nintendo. When nintendo released Super Nintendo he felt betrayed and boycotted nintendo for a year. Later he turned to Sega. Then he bought PS and it was the console of his dreams. The ultimate console. Yes, he used to say that, he almost tattooed the buttons on his arm, to fool himself with that nonsense. Than PS 2 came and the guy stopped buying consoles. He wanted something the videogame industry could not give to him.</p><p></p><p>How 'd you feel about that little story if I had posted it in another thread? Many people would think this is guys is just stupid or nuts. But doesn't he have the same rights that we RPG players have to feel that about the games we love?</p><p></p><p>Video games and RPGs may be different in some aspects, but many guys that play them are just the same.</p><p></p><p>So if you feel bad about 4E, don't worry, there are many people out there that felt the same when play 3, and don't you think that your feelings are more legit than theirs. Just do what they can't do as effective as you can, keep playing the game you have and love forever and ever after.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="F4NBOY, post: 3716370, member: 54553"] I wonder why this sentence: Usually comes followed by this one: I stand for what I've said. Video games and RPG are the same thing. They are games. We buy them and play them to have fun. Companies produce them and sell them for profit. And trust me, the guys who created D&D love the game as much as the guys that produced their videogame consoles. The way people play those games, what they feel about them, what those games meant to them, you just can't quantify that and use it to prove anything, it depends and varies from person to person. I know D&D players that love when a new edition comes out and video game players that are pissed off when they feel they their consoles are old. So what? What does that prove? Nothing. And the opposite of that proves nothing too. I was talking about emotions here, not business. You just missed the point. I posted that because I know some people becomes sad when they feel all those books they bought are useless. They feel robbed and fooled. I just don't think it's fair to put the guilty of that feelings on the companies. People just fool themselves(ok sometime companies fool people...) when they give too much importance and relevance to games. It's a game. Are they entitled to give as much importance to it as they want to? Sure, but just don't blame someone else when you feel bad about that. Look yourself in the mirror and ask "why did I care so much?" And IMO, RPG gamers have even less reasons to complain about new version of their products, because RPG games don't become obselete. People can still play them and have the same kind of fun they had when they were the main edition. And RPG is an even cheaper hobby than videogames! I know there are many passionate answers for what i've just said, but people that play videogame also have their passions. They are not mindless playing drones as we are the romantic/artists filled with feelings and strong emotions. Games are just games.The issue is that gamers ARE gamers. I knew a guy that slept with his Nintendo. When nintendo released Super Nintendo he felt betrayed and boycotted nintendo for a year. Later he turned to Sega. Then he bought PS and it was the console of his dreams. The ultimate console. Yes, he used to say that, he almost tattooed the buttons on his arm, to fool himself with that nonsense. Than PS 2 came and the guy stopped buying consoles. He wanted something the videogame industry could not give to him. How 'd you feel about that little story if I had posted it in another thread? Many people would think this is guys is just stupid or nuts. But doesn't he have the same rights that we RPG players have to feel that about the games we love? Video games and RPGs may be different in some aspects, but many guys that play them are just the same. So if you feel bad about 4E, don't worry, there are many people out there that felt the same when play 3, and don't you think that your feelings are more legit than theirs. Just do what they can't do as effective as you can, keep playing the game you have and love forever and ever after. [/QUOTE]
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