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<blockquote data-quote="StupidSmurf" data-source="post: 3720994" data-attributes="member: 35893"><p>Just some random points/observations:</p><p></p><p>1. Although I have nothing to back this up, I have a gut feeling that the resistance to the new system will be proportionately greater among veteran D&Ders than it has been for any previous change to a new edition. (Did that come out right?)</p><p></p><p>2. People who decide to buy 4E are not automatically branded as suckers or mindless fanboys/girls.</p><p></p><p>3. People who decide NOT to buy 4E aren't automatically branded as losers.</p><p></p><p>4. People who are not thriled by this change have a need to vent, and sometimes, a forum like this is a good place to do so. Just having the electronic equivalent of throwing open a window and yelling, shaking a fist at the heavens, then moving on.</p><p></p><p>5. WotC needs to stay in business....as a former gaming freelancer, I understand this all too well. I just wish they chose a different way to get those funds, like, say, oh I don't know, coming out with more product for existing settings? This is the best they could do? Redesign the system? Knights of the Dinner Table turns out to be more truthful than anyone ever expected. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f61b.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":p" title="Stick out tongue :p" data-smilie="7"data-shortname=":p" /> </p><p></p><p>6. Our group wrapped up our 3.5 Forgotten Realms campaign in late Spring, and we decided to take a D&D hiatus until this November, then resume with a brand-new group of characters. Until then, if we manage to get together to game despite an unusually busy summer, we'll do some Paranoia, Call of Cthulhu, and Shadowrun...maybe card game it with Munchkin. When the campaign resumes, it'll be 3.5, and as many have observed, there's enough material out for decades' worth of playing.</p><p></p><p>7. With the death of Dungeon and Dragon magazines, another connection between myself and the people who churn out D&D is broken. The release of 4E will drive that point home even harder. I think I could actually stop buying any more D&D-related gaming product and be satisfied. "Official" material, "Up to date" material, well, just doesn't seem to mean as much anymore, at least in this neck of the woods. We'll keep playing 3.5, thanks. Thus far, our group has met the news of 4E's release with eye-rolling and head-shaking.</p><p></p><p>8. I've read up on 4E and see some of the things that are ostensibly being corrected. Too many monster stats? Personally, I solved that problem simply by not listing all of the gol-durned stats when I write up an adventure (something I'm sure a legion of other DMs have done). Too many rules? Sure, all at once. Bringing in a newbie isn't that hard, if you just limit things to the fundamentals (again, I'm positive this is old news to many).</p><p></p><p></p><p>Far as I'm concerned, 4E is coming too soon. My library of 3.0/3.5 is extensive, but considering it meant that as a DM I was in the know and current and on top of things, it was acceptable. Now, in order to be "in the know" with the latest, I have to start all over again?</p><p></p><p>No thanks! <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f60e.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":cool:" title="Cool :cool:" data-smilie="6"data-shortname=":cool:" /> It's no longer so important to be current. If it ain't broke, don't fix it...and as far as our group is concerned, 3.5 ain't broke.</p><p></p><p>That's my ten cents' worth, anyhoo... <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="StupidSmurf, post: 3720994, member: 35893"] Just some random points/observations: 1. Although I have nothing to back this up, I have a gut feeling that the resistance to the new system will be proportionately greater among veteran D&Ders than it has been for any previous change to a new edition. (Did that come out right?) 2. People who decide to buy 4E are not automatically branded as suckers or mindless fanboys/girls. 3. People who decide NOT to buy 4E aren't automatically branded as losers. 4. People who are not thriled by this change have a need to vent, and sometimes, a forum like this is a good place to do so. Just having the electronic equivalent of throwing open a window and yelling, shaking a fist at the heavens, then moving on. 5. WotC needs to stay in business....as a former gaming freelancer, I understand this all too well. I just wish they chose a different way to get those funds, like, say, oh I don't know, coming out with more product for existing settings? This is the best they could do? Redesign the system? Knights of the Dinner Table turns out to be more truthful than anyone ever expected. :p 6. Our group wrapped up our 3.5 Forgotten Realms campaign in late Spring, and we decided to take a D&D hiatus until this November, then resume with a brand-new group of characters. Until then, if we manage to get together to game despite an unusually busy summer, we'll do some Paranoia, Call of Cthulhu, and Shadowrun...maybe card game it with Munchkin. When the campaign resumes, it'll be 3.5, and as many have observed, there's enough material out for decades' worth of playing. 7. With the death of Dungeon and Dragon magazines, another connection between myself and the people who churn out D&D is broken. The release of 4E will drive that point home even harder. I think I could actually stop buying any more D&D-related gaming product and be satisfied. "Official" material, "Up to date" material, well, just doesn't seem to mean as much anymore, at least in this neck of the woods. We'll keep playing 3.5, thanks. Thus far, our group has met the news of 4E's release with eye-rolling and head-shaking. 8. I've read up on 4E and see some of the things that are ostensibly being corrected. Too many monster stats? Personally, I solved that problem simply by not listing all of the gol-durned stats when I write up an adventure (something I'm sure a legion of other DMs have done). Too many rules? Sure, all at once. Bringing in a newbie isn't that hard, if you just limit things to the fundamentals (again, I'm positive this is old news to many). Far as I'm concerned, 4E is coming too soon. My library of 3.0/3.5 is extensive, but considering it meant that as a DM I was in the know and current and on top of things, it was acceptable. Now, in order to be "in the know" with the latest, I have to start all over again? No thanks! :cool: It's no longer so important to be current. If it ain't broke, don't fix it...and as far as our group is concerned, 3.5 ain't broke. That's my ten cents' worth, anyhoo... :) [/QUOTE]
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