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<blockquote data-quote="Coroc" data-source="post: 7894040" data-attributes="member: 6895991"><p>This.</p><p></p><p>It pretty much sums it up how it is to be resolved if we consider D&D being at least partial a <em>Role Playing </em>Game.</p><p></p><p>To elaborate a bit: There are some DM in whose worlds the heroes with their class levels are in fact the best of the regular folk, no matter if they are level 1 or level 20, they always can even mechanically outpace common folk. For the given RP - scenario : "player is the best swordsman in the world"</p><p>these kinds of game worlds are the best, because at any point this always can be proven, even mechanically.</p><p>2e had some campaign guide which gave advice on such scenarios fro mthe reverted POV:</p><p>Is it possible that player X is a 15th level cleric but only lowest tier in his church? Where his high priest might not even be level 1 but a commoner? Or that a king is only a level 0 commoner, so every fighter can easily take him out?</p><p>And the answer is yes that is totally feasible, e.g. the head priest might be a much more devout follower of the PC Xs deity, and the king is determined by birth and not by his levels in fighter or paladin class.</p><p>Their tasks are different to those of adventurers, they do not crawl around in the city sewers or some old mine to fight monsters but they lead a church or an empire.</p><p></p><p>In other worlds, if you would try to emulate every PC view (RP - wise) with a mechanical backbone, you would have to make the high priest of the party cleric be several levels higher etc.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Coroc, post: 7894040, member: 6895991"] This. It pretty much sums it up how it is to be resolved if we consider D&D being at least partial a [I]Role Playing [/I]Game. To elaborate a bit: There are some DM in whose worlds the heroes with their class levels are in fact the best of the regular folk, no matter if they are level 1 or level 20, they always can even mechanically outpace common folk. For the given RP - scenario : "player is the best swordsman in the world" these kinds of game worlds are the best, because at any point this always can be proven, even mechanically. 2e had some campaign guide which gave advice on such scenarios fro mthe reverted POV: Is it possible that player X is a 15th level cleric but only lowest tier in his church? Where his high priest might not even be level 1 but a commoner? Or that a king is only a level 0 commoner, so every fighter can easily take him out? And the answer is yes that is totally feasible, e.g. the head priest might be a much more devout follower of the PC Xs deity, and the king is determined by birth and not by his levels in fighter or paladin class. Their tasks are different to those of adventurers, they do not crawl around in the city sewers or some old mine to fight monsters but they lead a church or an empire. In other worlds, if you would try to emulate every PC view (RP - wise) with a mechanical backbone, you would have to make the high priest of the party cleric be several levels higher etc. [/QUOTE]
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