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<blockquote data-quote="AllisterH" data-source="post: 3663905" data-attributes="member: 51325"><p>You can do a move action beforehand. If it was a full round action, then the manoeuver would blow chunks since with a full round action, you can't get a running start which DOUBLES the DC of the check. That said, there is an unclear question. A jump is considered a move action meaning you have to have some movement left on your turn. EX: If you jump 10 ft and attack, you only have 20 feet left of movement on your turn thus, for a regular 30' movement character, you can only jump a maximum of 10feet.</p><p></p><p>Note: This is why the feat "Leap of the Heavens" from PHB II is your friend or "Leaping Dragon Stance" from ToB itself since both allow you to count standing jumps as running jumps.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>SDS is level 7, meaning a 13th level warblade can access it and yeah, Thri-Keen can abuse Tiger Claw something fierce since that racial +30 to their jump check makes any check pretty much an auto-success....That said, for a non-thrikeen character, if you actually spent your feats on Acrobatic, Skill Focus and the Run feat just to max out one manoeuver, I'd be surprised honestly.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Wow <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f600.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":D" title="Big grin :D" data-smilie="8"data-shortname=":D" /> I bow to your mastery of psionics as I had totally forgotten about the psionic classes that could abuse this.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="AllisterH, post: 3663905, member: 51325"] You can do a move action beforehand. If it was a full round action, then the manoeuver would blow chunks since with a full round action, you can't get a running start which DOUBLES the DC of the check. That said, there is an unclear question. A jump is considered a move action meaning you have to have some movement left on your turn. EX: If you jump 10 ft and attack, you only have 20 feet left of movement on your turn thus, for a regular 30' movement character, you can only jump a maximum of 10feet. Note: This is why the feat "Leap of the Heavens" from PHB II is your friend or "Leaping Dragon Stance" from ToB itself since both allow you to count standing jumps as running jumps. SDS is level 7, meaning a 13th level warblade can access it and yeah, Thri-Keen can abuse Tiger Claw something fierce since that racial +30 to their jump check makes any check pretty much an auto-success....That said, for a non-thrikeen character, if you actually spent your feats on Acrobatic, Skill Focus and the Run feat just to max out one manoeuver, I'd be surprised honestly. Wow :D I bow to your mastery of psionics as I had totally forgotten about the psionic classes that could abuse this. [/QUOTE]
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