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<blockquote data-quote="Zil" data-source="post: 4378229" data-attributes="member: 20004">I've heard (and I've felt) similar things from our 4E games.&nbsp; Going in, I thought things looked more like a skirmish miniatures game than D&amp;D of old, but once you actually play it's more than just that.&nbsp; A number of the powers/abilities really have a video game feel.&nbsp; My wife keeps insisting that it's to aid in the next incarnation of D&amp;D online or some other computer version of D&amp;D and I think she might be right.&nbsp; Of the 5 players in our group (including DM) I think we all see computer game influences in the design and language - heck, two of the group like describing their flavour text actions in terms of video game effects and the rest of just cringe and bear it.&nbsp; I think part of the reason folks &quot;feel&quot; the video game influences is that the game mechanics no longer makes any pretenses at modeling something that could be a &quot;real world&quot;.&nbsp; Instead, the game is modeling something else - the world that exists is action movies, some video/online games, etc.&nbsp;&nbsp; This is what I think people are feeling - the shift from what the game used to try and simulate (20th century sword &amp; sorcery/fantasy literature) to new influences (Martial arts movies, WoW, other computer games, etc).&nbsp;&nbsp; Is this good or bad?&nbsp; Depends on what you expect (or want) from D&amp;D.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Zil, post: 4378229, member: 20004"] I've heard (and I've felt) similar things from our 4E games. Going in, I thought things looked more like a skirmish miniatures game than D&D of old, but once you actually play it's more than just that. A number of the powers/abilities really have a video game feel. My wife keeps insisting that it's to aid in the next incarnation of D&D online or some other computer version of D&D and I think she might be right. Of the 5 players in our group (including DM) I think we all see computer game influences in the design and language - heck, two of the group like describing their flavour text actions in terms of video game effects and the rest of just cringe and bear it. I think part of the reason folks "feel" the video game influences is that the game mechanics no longer makes any pretenses at modeling something that could be a "real world". Instead, the game is modeling something else - the world that exists is action movies, some video/online games, etc. This is what I think people are feeling - the shift from what the game used to try and simulate (20th century sword & sorcery/fantasy literature) to new influences (Martial arts movies, WoW, other computer games, etc). Is this good or bad? Depends on what you expect (or want) from D&D. [/QUOTE]

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