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<blockquote data-quote="phloog" data-source="post: 4378693" data-attributes="member: 59219"><p>This has probably been mentioned, but I think that most video game comparisons stem from (whether you think this is valid or not):</p><p> </p><p>1) Recharge/Cooldown - rather than being able to use anything in your arsenal any time you'd like, you have to wait until it is ready again (whether another encounter, after a rest, etc.) -- this has been seen in many video games - - RTS games where you can't build another of troop type XYZ until so much time has passed, City of Heroes and other MMOs where you have to wait for the Blazing Attack O Doom to light up again before you can click on it, etc.</p><p> </p><p>2) Roles - Tank, Striker, Controller, etc. are straight out of WOW and other MMOs. (again, not a value judgement, just the basis for the comparison)...frankly, you could even say that the idea of a close-up attacker, a ranged attacker, a magic attacker, etc. is taken directly from Gauntlet <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /></p><p> </p><p>3) Combat emphasis (again, you might disagree with this) - the idea that all classes must do well equally in combat - - so wizards can spam magic missile....this is very similar to again, oddly enough, Gauntlet and of course many other videogames.</p><p> </p><p>Having said that, I still assert that 4E is a lot closer to a miniatures skirmish game or CCG than a video game.</p><p> </p><p>I should also point out that the biggest fan of 4E that I personally know is the manager of a Gamestop, and at the same time that he will tell me how much he loves playing 4E he will also tell me that it is absolutely a lot like an MMO, and that's what he likes about it.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="phloog, post: 4378693, member: 59219"] This has probably been mentioned, but I think that most video game comparisons stem from (whether you think this is valid or not): 1) Recharge/Cooldown - rather than being able to use anything in your arsenal any time you'd like, you have to wait until it is ready again (whether another encounter, after a rest, etc.) -- this has been seen in many video games - - RTS games where you can't build another of troop type XYZ until so much time has passed, City of Heroes and other MMOs where you have to wait for the Blazing Attack O Doom to light up again before you can click on it, etc. 2) Roles - Tank, Striker, Controller, etc. are straight out of WOW and other MMOs. (again, not a value judgement, just the basis for the comparison)...frankly, you could even say that the idea of a close-up attacker, a ranged attacker, a magic attacker, etc. is taken directly from Gauntlet ;) 3) Combat emphasis (again, you might disagree with this) - the idea that all classes must do well equally in combat - - so wizards can spam magic missile....this is very similar to again, oddly enough, Gauntlet and of course many other videogames. Having said that, I still assert that 4E is a lot closer to a miniatures skirmish game or CCG than a video game. I should also point out that the biggest fan of 4E that I personally know is the manager of a Gamestop, and at the same time that he will tell me how much he loves playing 4E he will also tell me that it is absolutely a lot like an MMO, and that's what he likes about it. [/QUOTE]
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