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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Fenes" data-source="post: 4379593" data-attributes="member: 604">No. The analogy works still, especially with regards to combat. It's not bad or good per se, and there's always the question what game took what from what game, but there are similarities which are more pronounced in 4E, if only for using terminology that makes them more apparent, and less hidden.Don't mention DSA, I am still scarred from one combat there...What is relevant and what is not differs for most people. I do think WotC cut down a bit too much what they considered "unfun", and mainly on the non-combat side. I'd have kept more skills, but added more skill points in general, to provide more variety, for example. For some character concepts, it's noce to be able to forge that one sword. It might even be the base of an entire campaign. And reducing crafting to some magical modding process just feels wrong.Open source is covered some in Shadowrun's latest sourcebook, Unwired.</blockquote>