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Message: <blockquote data-quote="LostSoul" data-source="post: 4380137" data-attributes="member: 386">It is reasonable and appropriate to want to stab a guy in the eye each round, killing him instantly.  You can't do that - you're just not good enough.  Sometimes you get lucky, sometimes things line up just right, sometimes the bad guy makes a mistake, etc.The same thing goes with trying to stab him while disarming him, or comboing a trip with an attack.  You're just not good enough.edit: Didn't see this post!Yeah, I think that is the problem.  I think it's a question of personal taste; how you feel about having to take that extra step to describe how the mechanics are reflected in the gameworld.I think they only end up a bit goofy if you don't really like the contributions of your fellow players - but that's a different topic! <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink    ;)"  data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" />  But yeah, they hand more control over what's going on in the gameworld to the group, leaving the players & DM having to describe more in order to immerse themselves in the gameworld.  <ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">What happens when someone loses hit points?  </li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">What happens when someone uses a healing surge?  </li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">What happens when someone is dropped to 0 hp?</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">What happens when someone succesfully uses a power?</li> </ul>You need to think about what just happened in the gameworld, because you can't assume that losing hit points means that character is cut open and bleeding.  I think that process of having to pay attention to the fiction helps me get into the game.  The guy loses hit points - what does that mean?  I am forced to visualize it so I can describe it.  (I always liked describing hit points like that.)I mean, I've had players do damage with Intimidate checks, "killing" minions!  If I don't keep my head in the gameworld, that will make no sense.</blockquote>

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