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<blockquote data-quote="AtomicPope" data-source="post: 4381392" data-attributes="member: 64790">So is every version of D&amp;D like a video game.&nbsp; Why?&nbsp; D&amp;D's Dave Arneson consults on video game design.&nbsp; Which came first?&nbsp; D&amp;D.&nbsp; Who's copying?&nbsp; Video games.&nbsp; I highly doubt PONG was based on D&amp;D.&nbsp;I have the best PvP Swashy on Venekor.&nbsp; I'd pwn you like a Noob.&nbsp;Your example only illustrates how video games have copied D&amp;D, not the other way around.&nbsp; Crack open a 1st edition PHB by Gary Gygax,&nbsp; read Role-Playing Master by Gary Gygax, and Master of the Game by - you guessed it GARY GYGAX and you'll find that D&amp;D was intentionally designed with these roles in mind since 1st edition.&nbsp;None of this has anything to do with 4th edition except that it's mired the dialog with low-brow backwards comparisons.&nbsp; 4E is just as much a video game as every version of D&amp;D that has ever existed.&nbsp; None of that has to do with the design of 4e but with the design of video games that emulate D&amp;D.&nbsp;They did not take a video game mechanics and rendered them to Pen and Paper.&nbsp; You've proven no such thing.&nbsp; All you've done is illustrated that D&amp;D and video games share a common lexicon.&nbsp; You didn't mention Hit Points, video games have them.&nbsp; You didn't mention classes, video games have them.&nbsp; You didn't mention levels, video games have them.&nbsp; But all of these things - including the four combat roles - D&amp;D has had first.&nbsp; Since 1st edition.&nbsp;But you'd want everyone to believe that 1st edition was rendered from PONG.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="AtomicPope, post: 4381392, member: 64790"] So is every version of D&D like a video game. Why? D&D's Dave Arneson consults on video game design. Which came first? D&D. Who's copying? Video games. I highly doubt PONG was based on D&D. I have the best PvP Swashy on Venekor. I'd pwn you like a Noob. Your example only illustrates how video games have copied D&D, not the other way around. Crack open a 1st edition PHB by Gary Gygax, read Role-Playing Master by Gary Gygax, and Master of the Game by - you guessed it GARY GYGAX and you'll find that D&D was intentionally designed with these roles in mind since 1st edition. None of this has anything to do with 4th edition except that it's mired the dialog with low-brow backwards comparisons. 4E is just as much a video game as every version of D&D that has ever existed. None of that has to do with the design of 4e but with the design of video games that emulate D&D. They did not take a video game mechanics and rendered them to Pen and Paper. You've proven no such thing. All you've done is illustrated that D&D and video games share a common lexicon. You didn't mention Hit Points, video games have them. You didn't mention classes, video games have them. You didn't mention levels, video games have them. But all of these things - including the four combat roles - D&D has had first. Since 1st edition. But you'd want everyone to believe that 1st edition was rendered from PONG. [/QUOTE]

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