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<blockquote data-quote="Imaro" data-source="post: 4382552" data-attributes="member: 48965"><p>This is either true in 4e and 3e or not true in either one. In 4e either you knock someone prone or you don't mechanically...you get a free healing surge from a power or you don't. You can narrate however you want but it's the same thing, only in 4e there is the binary instead of the chance to do it for way more things. It actually takes choice away from a player.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>The problem with saying just use acrobatics is that D&D 4e has further limited skill choices while still restricting (without the use of a feat) certain skills to certain classes. So unless I spend a feat...I have to be a Ranger or Rogue to dance well.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Never played a babarian so can't comment on that...Sorcerers however, haven't been replaced by Wizards in 4e. Can a Wizard mix and match his dailies and utilities to use them whenever the need for a particular one arises? Or does he still prepare them? He's a sorcerer lite.</p><p></p><p>The bard apparently was enjoyed by those who didn't focus primarily on combat and as a support character actually wasn't a bad choice.</p><p></p><p> </p><p></p><p>What is a superficial character? Just curious what is the criteria for this, because I'm not understanding it's usage in this paragraph.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>You sure are certain about the future, I think we will see an increase or decrease in power as classes are released. Even in the 4e PHB there is disparity (haven't played long enough to see just how big...but it is there) between effectiveness of classes in the same role.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Imaro, post: 4382552, member: 48965"] This is either true in 4e and 3e or not true in either one. In 4e either you knock someone prone or you don't mechanically...you get a free healing surge from a power or you don't. You can narrate however you want but it's the same thing, only in 4e there is the binary instead of the chance to do it for way more things. It actually takes choice away from a player. The problem with saying just use acrobatics is that D&D 4e has further limited skill choices while still restricting (without the use of a feat) certain skills to certain classes. So unless I spend a feat...I have to be a Ranger or Rogue to dance well. Never played a babarian so can't comment on that...Sorcerers however, haven't been replaced by Wizards in 4e. Can a Wizard mix and match his dailies and utilities to use them whenever the need for a particular one arises? Or does he still prepare them? He's a sorcerer lite. The bard apparently was enjoyed by those who didn't focus primarily on combat and as a support character actually wasn't a bad choice. What is a superficial character? Just curious what is the criteria for this, because I'm not understanding it's usage in this paragraph. You sure are certain about the future, I think we will see an increase or decrease in power as classes are released. Even in the 4e PHB there is disparity (haven't played long enough to see just how big...but it is there) between effectiveness of classes in the same role. [/QUOTE]
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