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<blockquote data-quote="Imaro" data-source="post: 4382645" data-attributes="member: 48965"><p>No...you paid the cost of a feat so that there was a mechanical benefit to you "reflavoring" your spell. I'm still not seeing a difference, and lke I said 3e actually let you at least try to do more things than 4e does. Unless of course you don't care about nerfing a power by making it a stunt for anyone.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I am not arguing that 3e's system for skill allotment was better or worse than 4e's...but it gave more options where variety and individualization was concerned. I would have rather seen a system where you were given differing points to spend on types of skills, like Earthdawn's skill system...than the answer become just remove all of the options. (this is one of the things that has me leaning toward Pathfinder).</p><p></p><p></p><p> </p><p></p><p>Yeah, well I just find it hillarious that the Bard="worse character evar!" while the Warlord= "Tha new bestest!"... though I will note that some people are seeing the same problems crop up with the Warlord that plagued the Bard... mainly that he is a sub-standard warrior unless there is another defender or striker he can reach with his powers.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Imaro, post: 4382645, member: 48965"] No...you paid the cost of a feat so that there was a mechanical benefit to you "reflavoring" your spell. I'm still not seeing a difference, and lke I said 3e actually let you at least try to do more things than 4e does. Unless of course you don't care about nerfing a power by making it a stunt for anyone. I am not arguing that 3e's system for skill allotment was better or worse than 4e's...but it gave more options where variety and individualization was concerned. I would have rather seen a system where you were given differing points to spend on types of skills, like Earthdawn's skill system...than the answer become just remove all of the options. (this is one of the things that has me leaning toward Pathfinder). Yeah, well I just find it hillarious that the Bard="worse character evar!" while the Warlord= "Tha new bestest!"... though I will note that some people are seeing the same problems crop up with the Warlord that plagued the Bard... mainly that he is a sub-standard warrior unless there is another defender or striker he can reach with his powers. [/QUOTE]
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