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<blockquote data-quote="Blue" data-source="post: 8915401" data-attributes="member: 20564"><p><em>So this is part of the issue that makes real discussion so difficult. It's comments like this, where what is clearly written in the OGL 1.2 is claimed not to be.</em> I won't ascribe motives to your action, like you said I thought Hasbro was evil or that I want to burn things to the ground.</p><p></p><p>Let's look at 9(d), bolding mine:</p><p>Severability. If any part of this license is held to be unenforceable or invalid for any reason, <strong>Wizards may declare the entire license void, either as between it and the party that obtained the ruling or in its entirety.</strong> Unless Wizards elects to do so, the balance of this license will be enforced as if that part which is unenforceable or invalid did not exist.</p><p></p><p>If you would like to claim this isn't there, then you are mistaken. If you would like to claim that it is not possible for Wizards, or some future management that holds this, to execute the "declare the entire license void [...] in its entirety", then you are also wrong.</p><p></p><p>So please stop trying to put words in my mouth that I think they are evil or claiming something isn't there. <strong>Because you are incorrect in both assumptions.</strong> I know I don't consider them evil, and it's demonstratable that there is a clause that could self destruct it all in the current OGL.</p><p></p><p>I don't really care who at Wizards of the Coast put it there, just that it has been approved to be there. And that it differs from the boilerplate I've seen time and time again about severability to stand out as a conscious choice. I'm also not saying they are planning to use it. But when he brought up the morality clause, it</p><p></p><p>Yes, we can ask to have it removed. I have, in polite tones, in the survey. Because I don't think Hasbro is "evil". I do think that new senior management, likely under pressure from outside investors and/or the parent company, have made regretable descisions that show that the amount of trust we can and should have in not just a company but all future management of said company (and in this case it's any company) needs to be moderated. But I don't think they are evil, and am actively trying to work with them to bring them back in alignment with the fanbase.</p><p></p><p>So put away your "pitchforks and torches" comments and stop trying to demonize me to win a discussion. Instead engage what was said. They at this point have only included the 5e SRD in their comments about OGL, not the 3ed or 3.5 SRDs, and there is language in the OGL which could be used to self-destruct the same thing. Both of these are true, and that's what I said.</p><p></p><p>(The rest of your comment below.)</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Blue, post: 8915401, member: 20564"] [I]So this is part of the issue that makes real discussion so difficult. It's comments like this, where what is clearly written in the OGL 1.2 is claimed not to be.[/I] I won't ascribe motives to your action, like you said I thought Hasbro was evil or that I want to burn things to the ground. Let's look at 9(d), bolding mine: Severability. If any part of this license is held to be unenforceable or invalid for any reason, [B]Wizards may declare the entire license void, either as between it and the party that obtained the ruling or in its entirety.[/B] Unless Wizards elects to do so, the balance of this license will be enforced as if that part which is unenforceable or invalid did not exist. If you would like to claim this isn't there, then you are mistaken. If you would like to claim that it is not possible for Wizards, or some future management that holds this, to execute the "declare the entire license void [...] in its entirety", then you are also wrong. So please stop trying to put words in my mouth that I think they are evil or claiming something isn't there. [B]Because you are incorrect in both assumptions.[/B] I know I don't consider them evil, and it's demonstratable that there is a clause that could self destruct it all in the current OGL. I don't really care who at Wizards of the Coast put it there, just that it has been approved to be there. And that it differs from the boilerplate I've seen time and time again about severability to stand out as a conscious choice. I'm also not saying they are planning to use it. But when he brought up the morality clause, it Yes, we can ask to have it removed. I have, in polite tones, in the survey. Because I don't think Hasbro is "evil". I do think that new senior management, likely under pressure from outside investors and/or the parent company, have made regretable descisions that show that the amount of trust we can and should have in not just a company but all future management of said company (and in this case it's any company) needs to be moderated. But I don't think they are evil, and am actively trying to work with them to bring them back in alignment with the fanbase. So put away your "pitchforks and torches" comments and stop trying to demonize me to win a discussion. Instead engage what was said. They at this point have only included the 5e SRD in their comments about OGL, not the 3ed or 3.5 SRDs, and there is language in the OGL which could be used to self-destruct the same thing. Both of these are true, and that's what I said. (The rest of your comment below.) [/QUOTE]
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