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<blockquote data-quote="Vigilance" data-source="post: 2853326" data-attributes="member: 4275"><p>Right but this is Xavier in a nutshell.</p><p></p><p>He's "dad". He's smarter than you, and he knows best, and if you don't realize that, then you just might be unduly influenced by his power.</p><p></p><p>You think Magneto and Juggernaut make having a mind-proof helmet a priority cause Xavier is afraid to muck around in people's minds?</p><p></p><p>He does feel justified for all sorts of mind tampering. In the comics and the movies. Like in X-2 where he and Magneto have a little chat about how they both know more about Wolverine than he does, and Xavier blithely mentions that he has "set Wolverine on the path", to which Magneto replies, "you just want him in your X_men so you're not telling him the real truth".</p><p></p><p>Ever occur to you Magneto is telling the truth? Xavier promised to help Wolverine, and COULD help him much more than he actually is. In other words he's lying.</p><p></p><p>The interesting thing about Xavier, is that he does unethical things all the time. He's much less honest than Magneto. But he gets a pass because he's so likable and does a lot of legitimately good things. </p><p></p><p>So I agree HE sees nothing wrong with what he did to Jean.</p><p></p><p>What you seem to have missed is that he does things like that all the time, for reasons he considers good. That doesn't mean they ARE good. </p><p></p><p>And now that the third movie has made it a little more obvious what he's been doing all along to you, you consider it character assassination, because you have made the uncomfortable realization that he's not all warm and fuzzy.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Vigilance, post: 2853326, member: 4275"] Right but this is Xavier in a nutshell. He's "dad". He's smarter than you, and he knows best, and if you don't realize that, then you just might be unduly influenced by his power. You think Magneto and Juggernaut make having a mind-proof helmet a priority cause Xavier is afraid to muck around in people's minds? He does feel justified for all sorts of mind tampering. In the comics and the movies. Like in X-2 where he and Magneto have a little chat about how they both know more about Wolverine than he does, and Xavier blithely mentions that he has "set Wolverine on the path", to which Magneto replies, "you just want him in your X_men so you're not telling him the real truth". Ever occur to you Magneto is telling the truth? Xavier promised to help Wolverine, and COULD help him much more than he actually is. In other words he's lying. The interesting thing about Xavier, is that he does unethical things all the time. He's much less honest than Magneto. But he gets a pass because he's so likable and does a lot of legitimately good things. So I agree HE sees nothing wrong with what he did to Jean. What you seem to have missed is that he does things like that all the time, for reasons he considers good. That doesn't mean they ARE good. And now that the third movie has made it a little more obvious what he's been doing all along to you, you consider it character assassination, because you have made the uncomfortable realization that he's not all warm and fuzzy. [/QUOTE]
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