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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Celebrim" data-source="post: 6466228" data-attributes="member: 4937">I personally think the devil was making a bad deal - for himself and not the one offered - and the main problem I see with it is that I had to have been lying, since he seemed to be offering what was beyond his authority to deal in.Not all gods are good.  Indeed, one might argue that in your average D&D campaign even the 'good' gods are as capricious, foolish, short-sighted, vain, and cruel as the Greek and Norse gods they tend to be inspired by.  (Actually, this is probably more the result that the mortals pretending to be those gods have all those flaws...)More or les, if it is true that "and agree to offer no temptation or aid from either side, "by agent or agency", then surely you are offering not much less than immunity to divine magic.  Yes, cure spells would be off the table but if absolute non-interference is what is offered presumably so is bestow curse and harm.  Having all the gods in the world turn a blind eye to you... well, let's just say the BBEG in my current campaign would gladly sell half his soul for that and think it a boon and not a curse, much less merely wager it.  Indeed, if the BBEG really could get an agreement of the gods and their agents to stay out of all of his affairs, he'd almost certainly end up ruling the world.  Without divine aid, there is only one person in the whole world that could probably stop him, and that person wouldn't - in fact, he'd probably join forces.  As such, it would amount to a concession by all the gods, devils, and so forth to relinquish all the world to him to be his sole possession eternally.Now, maybe you could wiggle in a loop hole and say that all sides could curse the person but not aid him, but without actually rereading your story post, if the gods really agreed to step aside and let someone live his life, and that if both Heaven and Hell turned a blind eye to him, that's power of almost unfathomable degree.</blockquote>

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