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<blockquote data-quote="Greenfield" data-source="post: 6466373" data-attributes="member: 6669384"><p>Yes and no.</p><p></p><p>The Chain Devil doesn't rule Hell, and his promise, while made in earnest, doesn't actually bind anyone but himself and his agents. </p><p></p><p>Similarly, the Angel isn't a deity, and since Heaven isn't ruled by any single power, even if she were her word wouldn't bind all divine forces. </p><p></p><p>If either side interferes then they lose the bet, but in the big picture it's just one soul. </p><p></p><p>Further, you're making a presumption that the PC could in fact rule the world, that he could gather enough temporal power to overcome all mortal resistance.</p><p></p><p>True the gods can't send someone to stop him, but any mortal ruler who can read the writing on the wall is certainly free to send an army, or an adventuring team, to do exactly that. The simple fact is that all but a very few of the "Big Bad" types in the world fail not because of divine or infernal interference, but simply because the world at large won't put up with their crap for very long.</p><p></p><p>And to be clear, navigating the policies and powers that be above and below may be a frightening prospect, but tip-toeing through mortal politics can make Divine and/or Infernal dealings look like child's play. </p><p></p><p>The simple fact is that most people in the world go their entire lives without Infernal contact of any sort, and little Divine contact above and beyond the weekly sermons they fail to sleep through. Somehow, such people aren't all contenders for Emperor of the World.</p><p></p><p>My point wasn't, however, that this would be a good character to play or DM, or even one that <em>could</em> be played in a game. Rather, the <em>idea</em> of such a person is intriguing, and would make an interesting foundation for a paperback-style fantasy.</p><p></p><p>I come across these ideas once in a while. I just wanted to share this one.</p><p></p><p>Have you had any such developments in your games? Situations that would be fun to explore in a story?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Greenfield, post: 6466373, member: 6669384"] Yes and no. The Chain Devil doesn't rule Hell, and his promise, while made in earnest, doesn't actually bind anyone but himself and his agents. Similarly, the Angel isn't a deity, and since Heaven isn't ruled by any single power, even if she were her word wouldn't bind all divine forces. If either side interferes then they lose the bet, but in the big picture it's just one soul. Further, you're making a presumption that the PC could in fact rule the world, that he could gather enough temporal power to overcome all mortal resistance. True the gods can't send someone to stop him, but any mortal ruler who can read the writing on the wall is certainly free to send an army, or an adventuring team, to do exactly that. The simple fact is that all but a very few of the "Big Bad" types in the world fail not because of divine or infernal interference, but simply because the world at large won't put up with their crap for very long. And to be clear, navigating the policies and powers that be above and below may be a frightening prospect, but tip-toeing through mortal politics can make Divine and/or Infernal dealings look like child's play. The simple fact is that most people in the world go their entire lives without Infernal contact of any sort, and little Divine contact above and beyond the weekly sermons they fail to sleep through. Somehow, such people aren't all contenders for Emperor of the World. My point wasn't, however, that this would be a good character to play or DM, or even one that [I]could[/I] be played in a game. Rather, the [I]idea[/I] of such a person is intriguing, and would make an interesting foundation for a paperback-style fantasy. I come across these ideas once in a while. I just wanted to share this one. Have you had any such developments in your games? Situations that would be fun to explore in a story? [/QUOTE]
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