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<blockquote data-quote="Damon Griffin" data-source="post: 2786384" data-attributes="member: 3568"><p><strong>The harrowing of Hell (w/Narnia spoilers)</strong></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>This would be a reference to the "harrowing of Hell", the Catholic notion that in between His death and resurrection, Christ descended to rescue souls held captive in Hell since the beginning of the world -- a proposed answer to the question "If believing in Christ is the only path to salvation, what about everyone who died before He came?"</p><p></p><p>There is no good consensus, AFAIK, regarding the origin of the notion of the Harrowing. The <em>word</em> harrowing was apparently first used on that context around 1000 AD, but the story can be traced back to the apocryphal Acts of Pilate or Gospel of Nicodemus, written between the 2nd and 4th Centuries AD.</p><p></p><p>We now return you to our discussion of Narnia... </p><p></p><p>I loved this movie. Very little was changed or left out, in comparison to, say, The Lord of the Rings films (but of course LWW is a much shorter book than any of Tolkein's trilogy.) I was a bit miffed at the change of Fenris Ulf's name, for no reason I could see; and I was disappointed that Aslan's rescue of the petrified creatures at Jadis's castle was (visually) limited to Tumnus. Not only is Rumblebuffin not properly introduced (as has been previously noted here), but we miss out on the other lion -- the one Edmund drew spectacles and a moustache on. That lion is <em>seen</em> later on, but never heard; in the book Aslan makes an offhand reference to "us lions" and the rescued lion is running around exclaiming "<em>Did you hear that? He said <strong>us</strong> lions! <u>Us</u> lions! Aslan and me!</em>" and the poor fellow is no help at all getting the creatures organized to move out. Fortunately there's a sheepdog.</p><p></p><p>I very much approved of the use of the dryad to send a message from Susan and Lucy at the Stone Table to Peter and the Narnian army. It clarified the earlier statement that "<em>even some of the trees are on [the White Witch's] side</em>."</p><p></p><p>Like some others here, I missed the Christmas party with the animals; and I had mixed feelings about the characterization of the fox, and of the revisionist meeting between Edmund and Tumnus in captivity. I thought both worked very well, but I always have reservations about any revision of text that might have been unnecessary, and I'm still making up my mind about whether these revisions were.</p><p></p><p>Inward and upward!</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Damon Griffin, post: 2786384, member: 3568"] [b]The harrowing of Hell (w/Narnia spoilers)[/b] This would be a reference to the "harrowing of Hell", the Catholic notion that in between His death and resurrection, Christ descended to rescue souls held captive in Hell since the beginning of the world -- a proposed answer to the question "If believing in Christ is the only path to salvation, what about everyone who died before He came?" There is no good consensus, AFAIK, regarding the origin of the notion of the Harrowing. The [I]word[/I] harrowing was apparently first used on that context around 1000 AD, but the story can be traced back to the apocryphal Acts of Pilate or Gospel of Nicodemus, written between the 2nd and 4th Centuries AD. We now return you to our discussion of Narnia... I loved this movie. Very little was changed or left out, in comparison to, say, The Lord of the Rings films (but of course LWW is a much shorter book than any of Tolkein's trilogy.) I was a bit miffed at the change of Fenris Ulf's name, for no reason I could see; and I was disappointed that Aslan's rescue of the petrified creatures at Jadis's castle was (visually) limited to Tumnus. Not only is Rumblebuffin not properly introduced (as has been previously noted here), but we miss out on the other lion -- the one Edmund drew spectacles and a moustache on. That lion is [I]seen[/I] later on, but never heard; in the book Aslan makes an offhand reference to "us lions" and the rescued lion is running around exclaiming "[I]Did you hear that? He said [B]us[/B] lions! [U]Us[/U] lions! Aslan and me![/I]" and the poor fellow is no help at all getting the creatures organized to move out. Fortunately there's a sheepdog. I very much approved of the use of the dryad to send a message from Susan and Lucy at the Stone Table to Peter and the Narnian army. It clarified the earlier statement that "[I]even some of the trees are on [the White Witch's] side[/I]." Like some others here, I missed the Christmas party with the animals; and I had mixed feelings about the characterization of the fox, and of the revisionist meeting between Edmund and Tumnus in captivity. I thought both worked very well, but I always have reservations about any revision of text that might have been unnecessary, and I'm still making up my mind about whether these revisions were. Inward and upward! [/QUOTE]
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