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<blockquote data-quote="WizarDru" data-source="post: 1260638" data-attributes="member: 151"><p>Heh. I've been relegated to "<em>user with a kid</em>". <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /> </p><p> </p><p>Great episode, IMHO. I fully agree that it's nice to see Batman fallible, again. Not incompetent, just not perfect. And he was. The B:TAS Bats, here, who make mistakes, gets lucky and doesn't give up. He's not insane, just driven. Could he use counseling? Sure. But he's not a madman. (as a sidenote, I was thrilled that Efram Zimbalist Jr. showed up last week to do Alfred....I consider him to be the quintessential Alfred voice as much as Conroy's Batman and Hammill's Joker). But, yeah, he walks the edge.</p><p> </p><p>I personally believe that Joker wasn't immune, but he was less vulnerable. Let's face facts, he <em>is</em> insane, and radically so. Seeing his arm turn into a lug wrench with teeth isn't going to unnerve him the way that it would a normal person....but he has limits, too...Ace just never used the whole of her powers on him. I like that we weren't shown what she did to him, just the results.</p><p> </p><p>As to the Flash...well, he's difficult to do a good story with, all the time...but there are plenty of reasons that he couldn't just run every bomb out of town. It's clear that he's not <em>that</em> fast all the time, and we've already seen that, unlike the Silver Age Flash or even his comics counterpart, he doesn't have the same degree of stamina for high bursts of speed. A better question would be why Superman didn't do something similar, as he was the only one who knew or could see the locations of the bombs using his X-ray vision, other than giving the other members vague hints. Of course, he was having problems with Ten, who can only be assumed to be able to have held his own because Supes was distracted by the bombs and all.</p><p> </p><p>Mark Hammill's <strong>IS</strong> the Joker, and this was a classic story that highlighted him well. Suitably dark and comic, every moment, especially the clock, was gold. I loved when he puts on the glasses: "<em>Oh, that's not very much time at all,</em> <em><strong>is it</strong>?</em>" Biggest suprise for me, of course, was that Ace wasn't a robot, which is the usual tradition. The RFG in Batman Beyond was an actual family, but I don't recall right now if they actually had powers, or were all just well-equipped (which is traditional for the RFG).</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="WizarDru, post: 1260638, member: 151"] Heh. I've been relegated to "[i]user with a kid[/i]". :) Great episode, IMHO. I fully agree that it's nice to see Batman fallible, again. Not incompetent, just not perfect. And he was. The B:TAS Bats, here, who make mistakes, gets lucky and doesn't give up. He's not insane, just driven. Could he use counseling? Sure. But he's not a madman. (as a sidenote, I was thrilled that Efram Zimbalist Jr. showed up last week to do Alfred....I consider him to be the quintessential Alfred voice as much as Conroy's Batman and Hammill's Joker). But, yeah, he walks the edge. I personally believe that Joker wasn't immune, but he was less vulnerable. Let's face facts, he [i]is[/i] insane, and radically so. Seeing his arm turn into a lug wrench with teeth isn't going to unnerve him the way that it would a normal person....but he has limits, too...Ace just never used the whole of her powers on him. I like that we weren't shown what she did to him, just the results. As to the Flash...well, he's difficult to do a good story with, all the time...but there are plenty of reasons that he couldn't just run every bomb out of town. It's clear that he's not [i]that[/i] fast all the time, and we've already seen that, unlike the Silver Age Flash or even his comics counterpart, he doesn't have the same degree of stamina for high bursts of speed. A better question would be why Superman didn't do something similar, as he was the only one who knew or could see the locations of the bombs using his X-ray vision, other than giving the other members vague hints. Of course, he was having problems with Ten, who can only be assumed to be able to have held his own because Supes was distracted by the bombs and all. Mark Hammill's [b]IS[/b] the Joker, and this was a classic story that highlighted him well. Suitably dark and comic, every moment, especially the clock, was gold. I loved when he puts on the glasses: "[i]Oh, that's not very much time at all,[/i] [i][b]is it[/b]?[/i]" Biggest suprise for me, of course, was that Ace wasn't a robot, which is the usual tradition. The RFG in Batman Beyond was an actual family, but I don't recall right now if they actually had powers, or were all just well-equipped (which is traditional for the RFG). [/QUOTE]
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