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<blockquote data-quote="Villano" data-source="post: 1204302" data-attributes="member: 505"><p>I didn't understand what you meant by "Did we ever establish that Doomsday wasn't intelligent?". Do you mean in the comics? There, he's pretty much just a mindless destruction machine. </p><p></p><p>And I doubt that he was lying. Why even toss something like that out if it doesn't have meaning or is reference again in the episode? </p><p></p><p>Like Hawkgirl's mace knocking back a planet destroying beam, Superman's eyes generate more power than a nuclear explosion. It's perfectly logical. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f644.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":rolleyes:" title="Roll eyes :rolleyes:" data-smilie="11"data-shortname=":rolleyes:" /> </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>In the comics, it was established that he was an ancient Kryptonian experiment. With that, you can bring Braniac into it. Also, giving the team something that cannot be stopped no matter how much they throw at it would make for an interesting story...if the writer bothered to put any thought to it.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Mr. Fantastic is a genius. Spider-Man is a genius. So if you gave Mr. Fantastic's time machine plans to Spider-man, he could build one? Not likely. </p><p></p><p>If they had had Bats say that it was tech stolen from some big bad like, say, Darkseid, I wouldn't have minded it. But turning Bats into super-genius was "dues-ex-machina" to me. You could imagine the writers' meeting. </p><p></p><p>Writer 1: "We need a way for the Justice Lords to get to our world"</p><p></p><p>Writer 2: "Batman builds a trans-dimensional portal!"</p><p></p><p>Writer 1: "Great! Moving on..."</p><p></p><p>That's about all the thought that went into it.</p><p></p><p>BTW, you can accept that Batman can build a portal but not that Doomsday can be an interesting villain? </p><p></p><p>To be fair, I doubt the writers could make him interesting since I don't have much faith in their abilities.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>The GL thing didn't even occur to me. Again, there's no thought put into these things. They remind me more and more of the old Superfriend series, where villains' had equipment that could do virtually anything and they would come up with the stupidest plans for it. Or where Batman or Aquaman could fly if the writers wanted them to.</p><p></p><p>Again, I point to the old "Martian Manhunter grabs his head and falls to the ground" scene which appears so often. They have such a powerful character but, instead of coming up with a creative way of not having him end the fight in two seconds, they just have him scream and collapse. It's lazy.</p><p></p><p>Sorry if you think I'm coming down on it too hard on the series. Don't let my problems take away your enjoyment of it. I just don't think it's all that.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Villano, post: 1204302, member: 505"] I didn't understand what you meant by "Did we ever establish that Doomsday wasn't intelligent?". Do you mean in the comics? There, he's pretty much just a mindless destruction machine. And I doubt that he was lying. Why even toss something like that out if it doesn't have meaning or is reference again in the episode? Like Hawkgirl's mace knocking back a planet destroying beam, Superman's eyes generate more power than a nuclear explosion. It's perfectly logical. :rolleyes: In the comics, it was established that he was an ancient Kryptonian experiment. With that, you can bring Braniac into it. Also, giving the team something that cannot be stopped no matter how much they throw at it would make for an interesting story...if the writer bothered to put any thought to it. Mr. Fantastic is a genius. Spider-Man is a genius. So if you gave Mr. Fantastic's time machine plans to Spider-man, he could build one? Not likely. If they had had Bats say that it was tech stolen from some big bad like, say, Darkseid, I wouldn't have minded it. But turning Bats into super-genius was "dues-ex-machina" to me. You could imagine the writers' meeting. Writer 1: "We need a way for the Justice Lords to get to our world" Writer 2: "Batman builds a trans-dimensional portal!" Writer 1: "Great! Moving on..." That's about all the thought that went into it. BTW, you can accept that Batman can build a portal but not that Doomsday can be an interesting villain? To be fair, I doubt the writers could make him interesting since I don't have much faith in their abilities. The GL thing didn't even occur to me. Again, there's no thought put into these things. They remind me more and more of the old Superfriend series, where villains' had equipment that could do virtually anything and they would come up with the stupidest plans for it. Or where Batman or Aquaman could fly if the writers wanted them to. Again, I point to the old "Martian Manhunter grabs his head and falls to the ground" scene which appears so often. They have such a powerful character but, instead of coming up with a creative way of not having him end the fight in two seconds, they just have him scream and collapse. It's lazy. Sorry if you think I'm coming down on it too hard on the series. Don't let my problems take away your enjoyment of it. I just don't think it's all that. [/QUOTE]
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