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<blockquote data-quote="Primitive Screwhead" data-source="post: 2907517" data-attributes="member: 20805"><p>I converted 'spell level' to normal DnD.. in EOM each 2MP of a spell roughly equates to 1 core spell level. In summoning its 1 loyal creature at a MP cost of double the CR.</p><p></p><p>As to task focused, the basic concept is to shape these shadows into a Construct and send it off on a mission... mostly rogue type stuff but other tasks could work.</p><p></p><p>Sifting through the published Constructs and Homunculus.. including the recent purchase of Golemcraft 101 here on Enworlds own store.. it looks like there are two extremes present:</p><p> - CR 1 or less Homunculus {with INT and skills}</p><p> - CR 7 and up Golums {No INT, no skills}</p><p></p><p>Using the Furtive Filcher as a base {1HD, 1/2CR} and just advance it up to CR 4 should work for what I am looking for. </p><p>My problem is one of understanding how to advance <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></p><p>I mean, sure. Boost it up to 3HD {Max advancement and still be Tiny}..but does that make it a CR 3 critter? Nope. The Iron Defender is a 2HD and 1CR..</p><p></p><p>Hmm.. actually I think the CR 1 and below is pretty well documented and I could simply alter the ECS Homunculi to fit the concept. But this leaves CR 2, 3, and 4.. These constructs would have to be more survivable in higher level combat... to be used either as distractors or delayors. Possible trap springers as well. Maintian the base of the Furtive Filcher as the closest published version with a 'shadow substance' build, and bring up the size to small and at least 3HD {for the extra feat}.... </p><p></p><p>Unseen servant seems to be a Summon: Construct cantrip <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></p><p>It brings a CR 0 creature into being that has limited capablity, specifically no more than 20 lbs of force, no skill checks DC 10 or higher, no use of 'trained only' skills.</p><p>What I would like goes beyond these limits, including picking locks, lifting heavy boxes, setting off traps....</p><p></p><p>Things that a weak and frail Thief would want to avoid doing personally...</p><p></p><p>[aside]Ranger Wickett might be able to work some deal with you regarding inability to purchase here...in my opinion, EoM is the best magic system on the market for D20...[/aside]</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Primitive Screwhead, post: 2907517, member: 20805"] I converted 'spell level' to normal DnD.. in EOM each 2MP of a spell roughly equates to 1 core spell level. In summoning its 1 loyal creature at a MP cost of double the CR. As to task focused, the basic concept is to shape these shadows into a Construct and send it off on a mission... mostly rogue type stuff but other tasks could work. Sifting through the published Constructs and Homunculus.. including the recent purchase of Golemcraft 101 here on Enworlds own store.. it looks like there are two extremes present: - CR 1 or less Homunculus {with INT and skills} - CR 7 and up Golums {No INT, no skills} Using the Furtive Filcher as a base {1HD, 1/2CR} and just advance it up to CR 4 should work for what I am looking for. My problem is one of understanding how to advance :) I mean, sure. Boost it up to 3HD {Max advancement and still be Tiny}..but does that make it a CR 3 critter? Nope. The Iron Defender is a 2HD and 1CR.. Hmm.. actually I think the CR 1 and below is pretty well documented and I could simply alter the ECS Homunculi to fit the concept. But this leaves CR 2, 3, and 4.. These constructs would have to be more survivable in higher level combat... to be used either as distractors or delayors. Possible trap springers as well. Maintian the base of the Furtive Filcher as the closest published version with a 'shadow substance' build, and bring up the size to small and at least 3HD {for the extra feat}.... Unseen servant seems to be a Summon: Construct cantrip :) It brings a CR 0 creature into being that has limited capablity, specifically no more than 20 lbs of force, no skill checks DC 10 or higher, no use of 'trained only' skills. What I would like goes beyond these limits, including picking locks, lifting heavy boxes, setting off traps.... Things that a weak and frail Thief would want to avoid doing personally... [aside]Ranger Wickett might be able to work some deal with you regarding inability to purchase here...in my opinion, EoM is the best magic system on the market for D20...[/aside] [/QUOTE]
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