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<blockquote data-quote="Artoomis" data-source="post: 1413559" data-attributes="member: 111"><p><img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /> <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /> <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></p><p></p><p>By the <strong><em>rules</em></strong> you can't do take an AoO or other any other direct melee action on a creature with unless you threaten it - with no exception for creatures with natural reach.. </p><p></p><p>The FAQ suggests otherwise, but it's not in the rules as written, that's for sure.</p><p></p><p>The allowance readying an action to strike a weapon that is attempting to hit you is perfectly reasonable. Whether or nor this extends to Karmic Strike is something I cannot answer without seeing the actual language of Karmic Strike to see whether it fits or not.</p><p></p><p>My guideline would be:</p><p></p><p>If Karmic Strike is somehow creating a situation very much like an AoO, then my rule would not apply.</p><p></p><p>If Karmic Strike somehow adds something like a sixth sense to you to know the melee strike is coming, I would allow my rule to work.</p><p></p><p>The difference comes down to <em>why</em> you get the extra attack. Is it because of what someone does in your threatened area (they provoke an AoO somehow) or because you see something out of the corner of your eye and react?</p><p></p><p>All House Rules, of course. By Core Rules, the answer is an obvious no - Karmic Strike does not apply.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Artoomis, post: 1413559, member: 111"] :) :) :) By the [b][i]rules[/i][/b] you can't do take an AoO or other any other direct melee action on a creature with unless you threaten it - with no exception for creatures with natural reach.. The FAQ suggests otherwise, but it's not in the rules as written, that's for sure. The allowance readying an action to strike a weapon that is attempting to hit you is perfectly reasonable. Whether or nor this extends to Karmic Strike is something I cannot answer without seeing the actual language of Karmic Strike to see whether it fits or not. My guideline would be: If Karmic Strike is somehow creating a situation very much like an AoO, then my rule would not apply. If Karmic Strike somehow adds something like a sixth sense to you to know the melee strike is coming, I would allow my rule to work. The difference comes down to [i]why[/i] you get the extra attack. Is it because of what someone does in your threatened area (they provoke an AoO somehow) or because you see something out of the corner of your eye and react? All House Rules, of course. By Core Rules, the answer is an obvious no - Karmic Strike does not apply. [/QUOTE]
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