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<blockquote data-quote="Hypersmurf" data-source="post: 2200847" data-attributes="member: 1656">He's phrasing it the wrong way, but it's a valid point he's trying to make.Instead of &quot;You provoke two AoO&quot;, what he means is &quot;You provoke one AoO, for two reasons&quot;.If you have one hit die, and 5 hit points, and a wight hits you with a Slam attack for 15 points of damage and one negative level, you're dead.&nbsp; One death, but for two reasons - you have negative levels equal to or greater than your hit dice, and your hit points are at -10.&nbsp; If you have a Scarab of Protection, you don't take the negative level, so you're not dead because of the negative level.&nbsp; But you're still dead.If you attempt to Disarm me with your bare hands, you provoke one AoO, but for two reasons - you're making an unarmed attack, and you are attempting to disarm.&nbsp; If you have the Improved Disarm feat, &quot;You do not provoke an attack of opportunity when you attempt to disarm an opponent&quot;.&nbsp; By a literal reading, this means that you don't suffer any AoO at all for this action.&nbsp; But we can understand the wording to mean &quot;You do not provoke an attack of opportunity by reason of attempting a disarm when you attempt to disarm an opponent&quot;.&nbsp; The feat negates one of the reasons you are provoking an AoO, but you still provoke because you are making an unarmed attack.Likewise, the text in Improved Grapple, &quot;You do not provoke an attack of opportunity when you make a touch attack to start a grapple&quot;, can be understood to mean &quot;You do not provoke an attack of opportunity by reason of making a touch attack to start a grapple when you make a touch attack to start a grapple&quot;.&nbsp; But this doesn't negate other reasons you might provoke an AoO, like &quot;hitting someone who's using Karmic Strike&quot;.-Hyp.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Hypersmurf, post: 2200847, member: 1656"] He's phrasing it the wrong way, but it's a valid point he's trying to make. Instead of "You provoke two AoO", what he means is "You provoke one AoO, for two reasons". If you have one hit die, and 5 hit points, and a wight hits you with a Slam attack for 15 points of damage and one negative level, you're dead. One death, but for two reasons - you have negative levels equal to or greater than your hit dice, and your hit points are at -10. If you have a Scarab of Protection, you don't take the negative level, so you're not dead [i]because of the negative level[/i]. But you're still dead. If you attempt to Disarm me with your bare hands, you provoke one AoO, but for two reasons - you're making an unarmed attack, and you are attempting to disarm. If you have the Improved Disarm feat, "You do not provoke an attack of opportunity when you attempt to disarm an opponent". By a literal reading, this means that you don't suffer any AoO at all for this action. But we can understand the wording to mean "You do not provoke an attack of opportunity [i]by reason of attempting a disarm[/i] when you attempt to disarm an opponent". The feat negates one of the reasons you are provoking an AoO, but you still provoke because you are making an unarmed attack. Likewise, the text in Improved Grapple, "You do not provoke an attack of opportunity when you make a touch attack to start a grapple", can be understood to mean "You do not provoke an attack of opportunity [i]by reason of making a touch attack to start a grapple[/i] when you make a touch attack to start a grapple". But this doesn't negate other reasons you might provoke an AoO, like "hitting someone who's using Karmic Strike". -Hyp. [/QUOTE]

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