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Karsite... the best Warlock Race?
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<blockquote data-quote="Nezkrul" data-source="post: 5915096" data-attributes="member: 6682154"><p>so you're friends are even less optimized than you? and this is a complaint against pixie or your friends for sucking? and the only way to "contribute" is by doing damage in combat?</p><p>again, why is a 10th level character taking on 13th level foes? in your example of two hezrous, even without a pixie in the party, your alll human party is still dead.... 6 rounds of just standing there. Warlocks buff themselves all day, so the buff problem doesn't ever come into play. Oh and it will ward off WAY more attacks than your humans with 0 SR.</p><p>ok, again, is this a complaint against pixie not being the best race for warlock class or is it a complaint against the completely arbitrary CR system? I don't care about your experience in living greyhawk without a warlock in your party and I'm pretty sure the OP also doesn't care.</p><p></p><p>Pixie being best race for warlock, this information doesn't help the OP, it just shows that broken items, when allowed to stack, make clerics disgusting and also shows how a CR13 encounter comprised of 2 CR11's can TPK the party REGARDLESS of their being a pixie or warlock in the party. Good Job sir.</p><p></p><p>Did you forget about what makes a high level rogue nasty in combat? UMD. And warlocks get that too, oh and they can take 10 whenever they want.</p><p></p><p>This whole block of information is bad. Espeically the SR part and the Invisibility part, cuz we all know that you will never ever fight anything in any campaign that doesn't have True Seeing or Blindsight 260 feet.</p><p></p><p>You need to learn how to think outside your box, man. There's way more to 3.5 than combat, and if combat is the only thing you are interested in contributing to, then go have fun and play with other power gaming munchkins that just want to "win d&d". Don't try to tell me I'm wrong by saying a pixie warlock sucks in combat against real casters, big dragons, and true demons, that makes you look ignorant. This post isn't about comparing warlock to real casters and how their abilities are worse than real casters, this post is about picking the best race to play as warlock.</p><p></p><p>1. Pixie doesn't need to pick Fell Flight or Walk Unseen or Retributive Invisibility as invocations, if he wants to he can take Improved Flight to make his maneuverability Perfect. Since Warlocks need feats to get more than 12 total invocations, not having to pick 3 of them means you are more versatile than even a race that would be nice and give you 2 bonus feats post 11 hit dice.</p><p></p><p>2. Built in Spell Resistance of 15 + class levels is only 1 less than the Spell Resistance granted by a cleric of 9th level and higher, except that for the first 5 levels of a Pixie's career he's got SR and the cleric 4-8 don't. AND he can take feats to improve it since it's natural to him (like the feat from Book of Exalted deeds that adds +4 vs. evil) And you say SR doesn't matter to PC's? And then you give a classic example where SR is the ONLY thing that will save you or your party? way to contradict yourself there.</p><p></p><p>3. Awesome stats for a warlock, everything you care about (3 more skill points per level is good)</p><p></p><p>4. Built in 10 DR that goes up as you gain warlock levels.</p><p></p><p>5. Weapon Finesse and Dodge for free.</p><p></p><p>6. Small Size and all its benefits.</p><p></p><p>7. Fey creature type makes you immune to a lot of "person" spells. Oh and no maximum age category AFAIK.</p><p></p><p>With that being said, if the DM throws encounters at the party designed to kill your character, and he succeeds, WHY are you playing with that douchebag DM? It's about having fun, and taking someone's fun away just to prove a point proves the point that you are a douchebag.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Nezkrul, post: 5915096, member: 6682154"] so you're friends are even less optimized than you? and this is a complaint against pixie or your friends for sucking? and the only way to "contribute" is by doing damage in combat? again, why is a 10th level character taking on 13th level foes? in your example of two hezrous, even without a pixie in the party, your alll human party is still dead.... 6 rounds of just standing there. Warlocks buff themselves all day, so the buff problem doesn't ever come into play. Oh and it will ward off WAY more attacks than your humans with 0 SR. ok, again, is this a complaint against pixie not being the best race for warlock class or is it a complaint against the completely arbitrary CR system? I don't care about your experience in living greyhawk without a warlock in your party and I'm pretty sure the OP also doesn't care. Pixie being best race for warlock, this information doesn't help the OP, it just shows that broken items, when allowed to stack, make clerics disgusting and also shows how a CR13 encounter comprised of 2 CR11's can TPK the party REGARDLESS of their being a pixie or warlock in the party. Good Job sir. Did you forget about what makes a high level rogue nasty in combat? UMD. And warlocks get that too, oh and they can take 10 whenever they want. This whole block of information is bad. Espeically the SR part and the Invisibility part, cuz we all know that you will never ever fight anything in any campaign that doesn't have True Seeing or Blindsight 260 feet. You need to learn how to think outside your box, man. There's way more to 3.5 than combat, and if combat is the only thing you are interested in contributing to, then go have fun and play with other power gaming munchkins that just want to "win d&d". Don't try to tell me I'm wrong by saying a pixie warlock sucks in combat against real casters, big dragons, and true demons, that makes you look ignorant. This post isn't about comparing warlock to real casters and how their abilities are worse than real casters, this post is about picking the best race to play as warlock. 1. Pixie doesn't need to pick Fell Flight or Walk Unseen or Retributive Invisibility as invocations, if he wants to he can take Improved Flight to make his maneuverability Perfect. Since Warlocks need feats to get more than 12 total invocations, not having to pick 3 of them means you are more versatile than even a race that would be nice and give you 2 bonus feats post 11 hit dice. 2. Built in Spell Resistance of 15 + class levels is only 1 less than the Spell Resistance granted by a cleric of 9th level and higher, except that for the first 5 levels of a Pixie's career he's got SR and the cleric 4-8 don't. AND he can take feats to improve it since it's natural to him (like the feat from Book of Exalted deeds that adds +4 vs. evil) And you say SR doesn't matter to PC's? And then you give a classic example where SR is the ONLY thing that will save you or your party? way to contradict yourself there. 3. Awesome stats for a warlock, everything you care about (3 more skill points per level is good) 4. Built in 10 DR that goes up as you gain warlock levels. 5. Weapon Finesse and Dodge for free. 6. Small Size and all its benefits. 7. Fey creature type makes you immune to a lot of "person" spells. Oh and no maximum age category AFAIK. With that being said, if the DM throws encounters at the party designed to kill your character, and he succeeds, WHY are you playing with that douchebag DM? It's about having fun, and taking someone's fun away just to prove a point proves the point that you are a douchebag. [/QUOTE]
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