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Katana in 5th edition - finesse?
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<blockquote data-quote="Cap'n Kobold" data-source="post: 7277695" data-attributes="member: 6802951"><p>Longsword requires less strength than a rapier, but that doesn't mean they're finesse weapons. </p><p>Longsword techniques emphasise the thrust, and the motion of the sword is often within the length of the sword itself. Katana techniques make more use of the insane flesh-cutting capability of its slash, and the centre of motion of the techniques is often outside the sword. *</p><p>*Now that is a bunch of generalisations, and both weapons have many different schools that vary as to their use and attitude. There are also a fair number of techniques that users of both weapons would recognise.</p><p></p><p>In general though, I'd have to say that if you really had to grant a type of longsword the finesse property, the more blade-heavy and slashing-oriented katana would be one of the less-likely examples.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>True. And as you say, that concept can be catered for with the use of magic: - in the Monk class, which is pretty much ideal for the trope.</p><p></p><p> I think that that is it for a lot of those concepts: A very high level character that fights lots of mooks in a setting where HP aren't necessarily meat.</p><p></p><p> The OP didn't specify a particular reasoning for their suggestion. - a discussion of the realism of it is as germane as the discussion of it in terms of game balance, or realisation of character concepts. "Arming sword" is generally used because the D&D use of "longsword" is pretty imprecise, and so we need different words to distinguish different swords like arming swords, katana, falchions etc that all fall under the umbrella of the 5e longsword category.</p><p>I've found the discussion has in general been mostly interesting and informative. </p><p></p><p>Perhaps if you were a little less vague about how it has been "threadcrapping", then that violation of the site policy could be rectified.</p><p></p><p> I've allowed a dual-wielding samurai-type character to simply count both katana and wakizashi as scimitars: - instant finesse-capable reflavour.</p><p>And, as you point out, many of the more romanticised later-period "duelling courtier samurai" or wandering swordsmen fit much better with a more monk-like concept - now catered for in the kensei. You can now have that unarmoured, swordsman, able to strike hard with both sword and body despite not being very athletic or powerful.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Cap'n Kobold, post: 7277695, member: 6802951"] Longsword requires less strength than a rapier, but that doesn't mean they're finesse weapons. Longsword techniques emphasise the thrust, and the motion of the sword is often within the length of the sword itself. Katana techniques make more use of the insane flesh-cutting capability of its slash, and the centre of motion of the techniques is often outside the sword. * *Now that is a bunch of generalisations, and both weapons have many different schools that vary as to their use and attitude. There are also a fair number of techniques that users of both weapons would recognise. In general though, I'd have to say that if you really had to grant a type of longsword the finesse property, the more blade-heavy and slashing-oriented katana would be one of the less-likely examples. True. And as you say, that concept can be catered for with the use of magic: - in the Monk class, which is pretty much ideal for the trope. I think that that is it for a lot of those concepts: A very high level character that fights lots of mooks in a setting where HP aren't necessarily meat. The OP didn't specify a particular reasoning for their suggestion. - a discussion of the realism of it is as germane as the discussion of it in terms of game balance, or realisation of character concepts. "Arming sword" is generally used because the D&D use of "longsword" is pretty imprecise, and so we need different words to distinguish different swords like arming swords, katana, falchions etc that all fall under the umbrella of the 5e longsword category. I've found the discussion has in general been mostly interesting and informative. Perhaps if you were a little less vague about how it has been "threadcrapping", then that violation of the site policy could be rectified. I've allowed a dual-wielding samurai-type character to simply count both katana and wakizashi as scimitars: - instant finesse-capable reflavour. And, as you point out, many of the more romanticised later-period "duelling courtier samurai" or wandering swordsmen fit much better with a more monk-like concept - now catered for in the kensei. You can now have that unarmoured, swordsman, able to strike hard with both sword and body despite not being very athletic or powerful. [/QUOTE]
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