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<blockquote data-quote="BASHMAN" data-source="post: 4263918" data-attributes="member: 8277">One of my beefs with the new rules is two weapon fighting.&nbsp; Only rangers can gain any real benefit from having an off-hand weapon.&nbsp;&nbsp; Yes, anyone can take TWF and TWDefense, but lets face it, you off-hand weapon could be a banana and you'd get the same benefits as it being a sword. Rangers are different-- they can actually attack with their off-hand weapon by using powers.&nbsp; Now this, I have no problem with so much.But one of the other benefits of being a TWF ranger is that you can use a regular 1-handed weapon as an off-hand weapon.&nbsp; Suddenly, weapons with the &quot;off-hand&quot; designation like the Katar are now no longer a viable choice for the ranger to use off-hand, unless you are one of those people who chooses to handicap their character for &quot;role-playing&quot; purposes.&nbsp; Is there no way that a non-ranger can make use of an off-hand weapon besides +1 dmg or +1 Reflex &amp; AC?&nbsp; If that is the case, as I said, the choice of off-hand weapon does not matter at all.&nbsp; This is further complicated by the fact that you need A FEAT to wield a Katar-- which nobody would ever take if the weapon's stats did not matter for off-handed wielding, and you may as well use a dagger.&nbsp; You would also be foolish to take the feat to use it as a main weapon, since bastard sword is a far better choice.&nbsp; The reason I ask is I had an idea of a character concept of a Githzerai who dual wielded Katars, and now that looks like a lame option.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="BASHMAN, post: 4263918, member: 8277"] One of my beefs with the new rules is two weapon fighting. Only rangers can gain any real benefit from having an off-hand weapon. Yes, anyone can take TWF and TWDefense, but lets face it, you off-hand weapon could be a banana and you'd get the same benefits as it being a sword. Rangers are different-- they can actually attack with their off-hand weapon by using powers. Now this, I have no problem with so much. But one of the other benefits of being a TWF ranger is that you can use a regular 1-handed weapon as an off-hand weapon. Suddenly, weapons with the "off-hand" designation like the Katar are now no longer a viable choice for the ranger to use off-hand, unless you are one of those people who chooses to handicap their character for "role-playing" purposes. Is there no way that a non-ranger can make use of an off-hand weapon besides +1 dmg or +1 Reflex & AC? If that is the case, as I said, the choice of off-hand weapon does not matter at all. This is further complicated by the fact that you need A FEAT to wield a Katar-- which nobody would ever take if the weapon's stats did not matter for off-handed wielding, and you may as well use a dagger. You would also be foolish to take the feat to use it as a main weapon, since bastard sword is a far better choice. The reason I ask is I had an idea of a character concept of a Githzerai who dual wielded Katars, and now that looks like a lame option. [/QUOTE]

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