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<blockquote data-quote="Hatmatter" data-source="post: 8084324" data-attributes="member: 75077">I agree. The principle item I miss from the PHB list (which they did do in XGE) is an inclusion of the school of magic in parentheses for each spell in the spell list. But, then again, I run over to the D&amp;D Beyond website (and I am not a paying member) and I get all that info in ten seconds, and it is more updated by including newly published spells than my PHB could be. Wizard's was facing such an uphill battle with the creation of 5th edition, and I think they pulled off a miracle in bringing the community, which was so divisive, together, I will always have considerable affection for the PHB, DMG, and MM of 2014. I am happy if Wizard's has finally settled on this version and they continue to put creative energy in upcoming years and decades into coming up with alternate means of introducing people to the hobby and the game, using reorganized material in different books and sets, and using different media (What I find confusing is visiting the D&amp;D Youtube channel...If I was wanting to learn D&amp;D I probably would be inclined to go to the D&amp;D website and Youtube channel first and both, I would think, would be disorienting for a new player. But, who knows? I am not ten years old.). I think many of the observations some of the experienced technical writers from our community have made are fascinating...but some people like the PHB as is...and with a forty-two year old publication (in the case of the 1978 PHB) in any field, there is going to an expectation from long-time admirers that some things remain the same simply due to an innate conservative tendency in people. Those wonderful observations from technical writers that have been made can be applied to different books or media. I am surprised that nobody in this thread has mentioned Jim Zub and Ten Speed Press's collaboration with Wizards of the Coast on their Adventurer's Guides: Warriors &amp; Weapons, Monsters &amp; Creatures, Dungeons &amp; Tombs...I think those are great!</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Hatmatter, post: 8084324, member: 75077"] I agree. The principle item I miss from the PHB list (which they did do in XGE) is an inclusion of the school of magic in parentheses for each spell in the spell list. But, then again, I run over to the D&D Beyond website (and I am not a paying member) and I get all that info in ten seconds, and it is more updated by including newly published spells than my PHB could be. Wizard's was facing such an uphill battle with the creation of 5th edition, and I think they pulled off a miracle in bringing the community, which was so divisive, together, I will always have considerable affection for the PHB, DMG, and MM of 2014. I am happy if Wizard's has finally settled on this version and they continue to put creative energy in upcoming years and decades into coming up with [I]alternate means[/I] of introducing people to the hobby and the game, using reorganized material in [I]different[/I] books and sets, and using different media (What I find confusing is visiting the D&D Youtube channel...If I was wanting to learn D&D I probably would be inclined to go to the D&D website and Youtube channel first and both, I would think, would be disorienting for a new player. But, who knows? I am not ten years old.). I think many of the observations some of the experienced technical writers from our community have made are fascinating...but some people like the PHB as is...and with a forty-two year old publication (in the case of the 1978 PHB) in [I]any field[/I], there is going to an expectation from long-time admirers that some things remain the same simply due to an innate conservative tendency in people. Those wonderful observations from technical writers that have been made can be applied to [I]different[/I] books or media. I am surprised that nobody in this thread has mentioned Jim Zub and Ten Speed Press's collaboration with Wizards of the Coast on their Adventurer's Guides: [I]Warriors & Weapons, Monsters & Creatures, Dungeons & Tombs[/I]...I think those are great! [/QUOTE]

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