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<blockquote data-quote="knasser" data-source="post: 7720354" data-attributes="member: 65151"><p>I think there is a substantial difference between a teasing caricature based on exaggerating minor national pasttimes or national costumes and making jokes about "the town rapist" and anti-Semitism. So I don't think you do feel exactly the same way. Most Americans have an idea of Germany. That awareness seems grossly lacking when it comes to Kazakhstan. When you say "German" to most North Americans, it's not as if National Lampoon's European Vacation is their primary source for their impressions of you. But say "Kazakh" and most Americans are so unaware of anything about the country that Borat is their only understanding. You missed the closer analogy in comparing it to German dealing movies. Instead of saying "but I am not offended by depictions of Germans being in lederhosen", ask yourself if you would like a film depicting modern Germans as Jew-hating. Not as funny now, is it? Would you still say such film is making fun of the viewer for depicting of Germans as jew-hating nazis? No. I think you would not. I hope you would not! Borat does this to Kazakhstan though.</p><p></p><p>Borat was a very popular movie in America. I do not agree that this is because the majority of those audiences enjoy it as a commentary on their own ignorance of world affairs. I believe most people who went to see Borat in America laughed because he says: "my sister is number one prostitute", not because he says this and they think 'ha! look perfectly this sends up my lack of awareness of this country by saying things that are not true." You have a very elevated opinion of popular American entertainment if you think the latter is the default assumption with a movie that mocks the people of another country.</p><p></p><p>But this is my opinion. But I think it is not as mild as "ha! Lederhosen!" The subject is far crueller. And also Americans have enough other sources of information - news and other films - to think such things with Germany are fake. With Kazakhstan, Americans only think of Borat. So yes - they know it is comedy, but they also think it is only exaggeration.</p><p></p><p>Anyway, only my opinion. This is off-topic and not a pleasant diversion. We can agree to disagree. I only wanted to make you understand how I see it. We should return to the happy subject of Kazakhstan's first RPG Convention! <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="knasser, post: 7720354, member: 65151"] I think there is a substantial difference between a teasing caricature based on exaggerating minor national pasttimes or national costumes and making jokes about "the town rapist" and anti-Semitism. So I don't think you do feel exactly the same way. Most Americans have an idea of Germany. That awareness seems grossly lacking when it comes to Kazakhstan. When you say "German" to most North Americans, it's not as if National Lampoon's European Vacation is their primary source for their impressions of you. But say "Kazakh" and most Americans are so unaware of anything about the country that Borat is their only understanding. You missed the closer analogy in comparing it to German dealing movies. Instead of saying "but I am not offended by depictions of Germans being in lederhosen", ask yourself if you would like a film depicting modern Germans as Jew-hating. Not as funny now, is it? Would you still say such film is making fun of the viewer for depicting of Germans as jew-hating nazis? No. I think you would not. I hope you would not! Borat does this to Kazakhstan though. Borat was a very popular movie in America. I do not agree that this is because the majority of those audiences enjoy it as a commentary on their own ignorance of world affairs. I believe most people who went to see Borat in America laughed because he says: "my sister is number one prostitute", not because he says this and they think 'ha! look perfectly this sends up my lack of awareness of this country by saying things that are not true." You have a very elevated opinion of popular American entertainment if you think the latter is the default assumption with a movie that mocks the people of another country. But this is my opinion. But I think it is not as mild as "ha! Lederhosen!" The subject is far crueller. And also Americans have enough other sources of information - news and other films - to think such things with Germany are fake. With Kazakhstan, Americans only think of Borat. So yes - they know it is comedy, but they also think it is only exaggeration. Anyway, only my opinion. This is off-topic and not a pleasant diversion. We can agree to disagree. I only wanted to make you understand how I see it. We should return to the happy subject of Kazakhstan's first RPG Convention! :) [/QUOTE]
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