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<blockquote data-quote="knasser" data-source="post: 7720588" data-attributes="member: 65151"><p>I think that's best. I find the movie very offensive. So do very many other people. It's not for others to tell us we should be fine with someone portraying Kazakhstan as a nation of bigots. And I would never portray Germans as a nation of anti-Semites nor try to justify doing so by saying there was a kernel of truth to it because there are such people in the country. So that comparison is a poor one. Yes, I saw Wag The Dog. Very long time ago. I don't see it alters anything about Borat. Going in search of a quote from a Kazakh person saying they are positive about it also alters nothing. Kazakhstan is a nation of many millions. What meaning does one voice have? I have said I find the movie offensive. I have given good reasons why very clearly explained. As you agree, the reasons in the USA may be very different. I do not know how popular it was in Germany. Maybe there it is only popular with intellectuals who watch it and interpret it solely as a satire on Western ignorance. Maybe Germany doesn't have lots of people who watch it and it is their sole exposure to Kazakhstan and who laugh at the ignorant character rather than themselves. Maybe Germans are much smarter and worldly than Americans. But <strong>I</strong> think lots of people around the world who know nothing of Kazakhstan and its people watch it and laugh at the stupid Jew-fearing Kazakhs they see on screen.</p><p></p><p>Which of us is right? Me who thinks the world has lots of ignorant people or you who thinks the film was popular because everyone wanted to laugh at themselves? We cannot know. But usually the cynic is right. I find the film offensive. Maybe as you say it is because I do not get the joke and realise it is funny to show the nation as it isn't. Maybe the fault is mine for not understanding. But there are very many people if so.</p><p></p><p>Let this be the last post on the subject. I have already suggested we drop it once.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="knasser, post: 7720588, member: 65151"] I think that's best. I find the movie very offensive. So do very many other people. It's not for others to tell us we should be fine with someone portraying Kazakhstan as a nation of bigots. And I would never portray Germans as a nation of anti-Semites nor try to justify doing so by saying there was a kernel of truth to it because there are such people in the country. So that comparison is a poor one. Yes, I saw Wag The Dog. Very long time ago. I don't see it alters anything about Borat. Going in search of a quote from a Kazakh person saying they are positive about it also alters nothing. Kazakhstan is a nation of many millions. What meaning does one voice have? I have said I find the movie offensive. I have given good reasons why very clearly explained. As you agree, the reasons in the USA may be very different. I do not know how popular it was in Germany. Maybe there it is only popular with intellectuals who watch it and interpret it solely as a satire on Western ignorance. Maybe Germany doesn't have lots of people who watch it and it is their sole exposure to Kazakhstan and who laugh at the ignorant character rather than themselves. Maybe Germans are much smarter and worldly than Americans. But [B]I[/B] think lots of people around the world who know nothing of Kazakhstan and its people watch it and laugh at the stupid Jew-fearing Kazakhs they see on screen. Which of us is right? Me who thinks the world has lots of ignorant people or you who thinks the film was popular because everyone wanted to laugh at themselves? We cannot know. But usually the cynic is right. I find the film offensive. Maybe as you say it is because I do not get the joke and realise it is funny to show the nation as it isn't. Maybe the fault is mine for not understanding. But there are very many people if so. Let this be the last post on the subject. I have already suggested we drop it once. [/QUOTE]
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