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<blockquote data-quote="mvincent" data-source="post: 3446515" data-attributes="member: 27034">Haven't I been giving clear statements and examples from the rules (with appropriate links)? The term &quot;magically keen&quot; is used in the spell's definition. Since a word cannot define itself, we would not use a hypothetical D&amp;D definition of keen here (as that would be a circular definition), but would instead use the conventional definition of keen (i.e. sharp). Here's a link to the <a href="http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/keen" target="_blank">dictionary definition of keen</a> if that helps any. A sharpened bow (if possible) would not logically have any effect on its arrows unless this was noted (as was the case for the Elven Longbow).Mind you: I have no vested interest in changing your mind, but when I see a poster making statements that doesn't seem to make sense, I try do what I can to provide information. The previous information I provided seemed fairly solid to me (and I don't feel that you are holding up your end with addressing my points or providing new information), so I have to ask: is there anything I can say or do to make an impact on you? If not, we could certainly shorten the discussion.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="mvincent, post: 3446515, member: 27034"] Haven't I been giving clear statements and examples from the rules (with appropriate links)? The term "magically keen" is used in the spell's definition. Since a word cannot define itself, we would not use a hypothetical D&D definition of keen here (as that would be a circular definition), but would instead use the conventional definition of keen (i.e. sharp). Here's a link to the [url="http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/keen"]dictionary definition of keen[/url] if that helps any. A sharpened bow (if possible) would not logically have any effect on its arrows unless this was noted (as was the case for the Elven Longbow). Mind you: I have no vested interest in changing your mind, but when I see a poster making statements that doesn't seem to make sense, I try do what I can to provide information. The previous information I provided seemed fairly solid to me (and I don't feel that you are holding up your end with addressing my points or providing new information), so I have to ask: is there [I][B]anything[/B][/I] I can say or do to make an impact on you? If not, we could certainly shorten the discussion. [/QUOTE]

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