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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Celebrim" data-source="post: 9391680" data-attributes="member: 4937">I don't disagree with you but that is the way it is at level 1 especially given the absurd difficulty of the caves (which at best serve as Dark Souls like trial by fire for newbies with even less of a tutorial section).  First level characters simply lack any staying power and 1 to 2 mass combats is as much as they can handle.  I don't think you can fix that with an 'old school' format without very much leaving the 'old school' paradigm, except by not taking B2 as anything like a good adventure or a good introduction to the game.My experience having run B2 like three times is that getting plate mail for your front liners is a tipping point.  Once you have plate mail and shields and have a few fighters that hit 2nd level, the caves go from harrowing to just grindy with simplistic rince and repeat tactics of using choke points.  Granted it took me like 10 years and a couple of tries and a lot of growing in maturity and experiencing alternate patterns of play to realize just how bad B2 was, but I'm now pretty well convinced in my opinion that it's one of the worst noobie adventures ever written (both from the perspective of playing and running it) and little keeps it going but nostalgia.  It's a kitchen sink dungeon with little to recommend it.  But, might be too late to do anything about it now.</blockquote>