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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Sir Whiskers" data-source="post: 940136" data-attributes="member: 6941">I'm not a fan of penalties that take away a player's control over his character - it's fine to put the character in difficult situations, but a GM should try never to take control of the character. This is one of the reasons I don't like the lycanthrope rules as written: one character I was playing became a wererat. He was more of a threat to the party than half the enemies we were facing and the most frustrating part was that there was no one in the module who could cure the character - as a player my only options were to create a new character, or run the old one and try my best never to be damaged in combat (yeah, right...) The role-playing penalties suggested for the old buff spells can easily cross this line, IMHO.All that said, I like the idea of two types of spells, with the cruder versions having different drawbacks and benefits. One suggestion: after the old spell wears off, the recipient must make a save (Fort for physical stat, Will for mental) or suffer a penalty to the affected stat equal to the bonus received for the same amount of time the stat was boosted. In addition, the recipient has a -1 penalty to the save for every time the spell was cast upon him in the past 7 days.Example: Erik the Strong has bull's strength cast on him by a 6th-level wizard. The wizard rolls +4 to Erik's strength. 6 hours later Erik must make a Fort save or suffer -4 to his strength for 6 hours. If the wizard throws this spell on Erik every day, then the Fort save will be at -7. BTW, this is only a drawback in campaigns where parties cannot always rest safely after a few encounters - there has to be a real risk of being in combat while the penalty is in effect.Another option is to have the spells have reduced effect if used too often, say -1 to the 1d4+1 roll for every consecutive day in which the spell is cast on the same recipient. In this situation, the players would have to plan ahead, or possibly gain no benefit from the spell when it is most needed.</blockquote>

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